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ANC’s fallout with DA escalates as Ramaphosa pushes back on business pressure

Cracks deepen in the coalition government as the ANC lashes out at the DA over recent missteps. With the ANC’s chief whip calling for consequences and President Ramaphosa rejecting external interference, the pact’s future hangs in the balance.
ANC’s fallout with DA escalates as Ramaphosa pushes back on business pressure

Attitudes in the ANC have hardened against a continued power pact with the DA, even as business leaders sent a letter to both parties pleading with them to “stay the course, stay in the room, hold the line, keep building and compromise”.

“The ANC is really gatvol,” said an official at the party’s Luthuli House headquarters, echoing the view of senior party officials canvassed by the Daily Maverick at the weekend.

The ANC and the DA are expected to meet after the ANC’s National Working Committee (NWC) convenes on Monday, 7 April to decide what to do.

“I don’t think this GNU [Government of National Unity] with the DA is continuing,” said the official, who is privy to the top-line zeitgeist.

“There has been a fatal mistake and there must be consequences,” said the ANC’s chief whip at Parliament, Mdumiseni Ntuli.

“You can’t have Cabinet ministers [in the DA] voting against a major national decision agreed by Cabinet [the second Budget]. We must strive to maintain the GNU, but not at all costs, and it can’t be everyone for themselves but only God for all of us,” he said.

“There’s a major irritation [in the ANC] with the DA. What if, for example, an ANC conference is coming up and some Cabinet ministers [from different power blocs] start to defy the President’s direction? How do you deal with that? It could be the end of the movement [the ANC],” said Ntuli, who, along with President Cyril Ramaphosa and his deputy, Paul Mashatile, will determine whether the ANC forms a new GNU or stays in the existing major party pact with the DA.

End of the road


“The strongest sentiment is that if the DA did not vote for the Budget, then what role do they have in government, because they do not support the work of government? At this point, it could spell the end of the road,” said an official close to Mashatile, the head of GNU business in the ANC.

When asked if a letter by prominent business leaders imploring the ANC and DA to cool down and get it together would influence direction, he said, “It will be factored in, especially with regard to the impact on the economy.”

News24 first reported on an impassioned letter from business leaders asking the ANC and DA to “stay the course, stay in the room, hold the line, keep building and compromise”. They wrote that a GNU collapse could have dire consequences for jobs and growth, that there was a lot to lose and that in a complex and hostile environment (following a series of attacks on South Africa by the US), it was a time for unity.

However, the letter has had less impact than initially thought.

On Sunday, Ramaphosa, speaking at an ANC event, said: “Business does not dictate what happens in government. We make our own decisions on everything that advances the interests of our people. Of course, they [businesspeople] are entitled to express their views, wishes and fears. In the end, I want it to be clear that the ANC will not be influenced by what business says.”

Ntuli said, “I received the letter from business with some discomfort. While I see the spirit of patriotism and unity, there’s a major undertone that concerns me. And that undertone is that if the DA is gone, then reforms will be abandoned. But those reforms [energy, logistics, crime and corruption action, as well as local government reform] started in 2021/22 when the ANC was a majority party.

“What the letter is saying to me is business believes the state has no capacity without the DA and that a government without the DA can’t be trusted. In any engagement [we have] with business, I would like to raise what I see as partisan considerations.

“It’s a complex environment, and we need to be sober-minded and calm and demonstrate to the nation we are taking decisions in line with our constitutional values and a commitment to nonracialism.”

Best bet


Business leaders believe the GNU has worked well in eight months and that the political competition has seen many Cabinet ministers lift their game to benefit South Africa.

They consider the large-majority GNU led by the ANC with the DA as South Africa’s best bet to get growth going and stimulate employment, especially at a time when 500,000 (and counting) jobs are on the line because of how relations with the US have bombed since Donald Trump became president.

Business leaders do not believe that either Ramaphosa or DA leader John Steenhuisen want the GNU to end.

The DA does not want to go back into opposition, as its most significant growth path is to show what it can do in the national government, believe business leaders.

A business leader said that cool heads should prevail and that a fight over a 0.5 percentage point VAT increase seemed puerile in the face of the challenge facing SA. The increase will raise R13.5-billion in 2025, a drop in the ocean compared to the expenditure cuts needed to fend off crippling debt and what is needed to fund infrastructure investment and reforms that will turn positive sentiment into growth and jobs.

“The worst thing we [South Africa] can do is upset the apple cart,” said a CEO, who acknowledged that it would be difficult for Ramaphosa to manage a Cabinet in which six ministers had voted against the Budget.

“Last week, I felt we had reached the end of the road with the DA,” said an ANC MP who spoke anonymously as they can’t speak officially. “We are so far from each other.”

The MP said that while caucus members had tried to work with their DA counterparts, they felt the parties’ positions were too far apart. The MP said the DA was trying to push for the devolution of metro rail control and a rethink of BEE, especially insofar as it applied to multinationals.

“We’ve got options,” said the MP. “The EFF was willing to support us [to pass the Budget].”

The MP said many ANC MPs found their DA counterparts “destructive and oppositionist. I’m there where I think it should end, and we consider other options.”

Asked for his view, the ANC secretary-general, Fikile Mbalula, said: “I’ve never prevaricated. The GNU will not collapse if they [the DA] leave. We are going to reflect [at the NWC meeting]. It is them who have put themselves in this position.”

Asked if weekend meetings had been held with the DA, he said: “We meet with the DA all the time.”

Context 


The Budget brouhaha shifted the ANC’s attitude toward continuing its power-sharing pact with the DA. The edited transcription below of a recording of the ANC caucus meeting at Parliament on Tuesday, 2 April, ahead of the fiscal framework vote, provides important context. (First reported by TimesLive.)

Mashatile: “If they don’t support the Budget, they don’t deserve to be in the GNU. It doesn’t mean the end of the GNU, [just that] the GNU won’t be with them. They are firing themselves out of the GNU. There’s no one, comrades, as a minister who can implement programmes of a Budget for which they haven’t voted. It can’t be done.

“The chief whip [of the ANC] must make it clear to them so by the time we get to the House they would have gotten this message.”

Ramaphosa: “What the DP [Deputy President] is saying is our general approach. I often say that you must not interrupt your adversary whilst they are making a mistake. The DA have locked themselves into an unenviable position — a cul-de-sac. It’s most unpleasant. I met with John Steenhuisen yesterday evening, and he said, ‘Where do we go now?’ And I said, ‘John, the ball is in your court. You need to work your way out.’

“[Ramaphosa continued the conversation.] ‘We lead this GNU, whether you like it or not. We have a responsibility to show leadership, whether you like it or not, even under difficult circumstances. You call the ANC all manner of names. What seems to please you is you want to be in government and you want to be the opposition in government.’ And I said: ‘You can’t have your cake and eat it.’

“The approach we should take is a tactical one, and of course, in the end, this may well be the end of their participation as they define themselves outside of the GNU. I said [to Steenhuisen], ‘You said if we [the ANC] work with other parties, that’s the end of the GNU. And I said ‘Well, maybe, you will live up to that [risk] yourself. Because that’s what you have wished for. ActionSA and other parties took a much more cooperative and practical disposition.”

Ramaphosa then spoke about the DA negotiating document and said the issues raised would fall flat if the party continued withholding support for the Budget.

“Their [the DA’s] choice will have consequences. Rather than us say, ‘We’re kicking you out’, everyone must see and know, ipso facto, they will have defined themselves out of the GNU. Therefore, I say, don’t interrupt your adversary, whilst they are making a mistake.”

The Daily Maverick has sent detailed questions to the DA and will publish the answers when they are received. DM

Comments

jcdvil Apr 6, 2025, 10:14 PM

Really gatvol,what a joke we have been gatvol for years( of corruption and mismanagement)

Lothar Böttcher Apr 7, 2025, 06:06 AM

There we have it, clear as daylight: " We make our own decisions on everything that advances the interests of our people [read "The ANC"]. Of course, they [businesspeople] are entitled to express their views, wishes and fears. In the end, I want it to be clear that the ANC will not be influenced by what business says.” I wish we had a team that actually plays for South Africa and not just for themselves.

Rod MacLeod Apr 7, 2025, 07:16 AM

Like this: "You can’t have Cabinet ministers [in the DA] voting against a major national decision agreed by Cabinet [the second Budget]" Obviously no room for dissenting opinions at the GNU. Obvs Ferial thinks that's OK.

Pieter van de Venter Apr 7, 2025, 08:26 AM

Remember, 60% required for cabinet decissions. None if the points if disagreement were cabinet decissions - All ANC decissions that the other ministers must just support.

Francois Smith Apr 7, 2025, 07:39 AM

Mashitile wants the GNU to fail. It will be the end of Ramaphosa and the only way he can become president. 2029 will not be as good towards the ANC as 2024 was.

Glyn Morgan Apr 7, 2025, 01:50 PM

Right. If the ANC has to make hard decisions and chicken out we could well have another election.

Auke Van Der Meulen Van Der Meulen Apr 7, 2025, 06:30 AM

Happy to reject business’s call for a level head but do not realise that the tax comes from that base. Business SA is correct the government can not function without DA input. Has been prove the last 30 years of decline.

Dragon Slayer Apr 7, 2025, 06:50 AM

“There has been a fatal mistake and there must be consequences,” said the ANC’s chief whip at Parliament, Mdumiseni Ntuli. - What? I guess corruption and rampant theft are not mistakes in need of consequences. “What the letter is saying to me is business believes the state has no capacity" Really? 30 years in power has proven that conclusively! The ANC will bed any flea ridden mob to buy their brown-nosing just to stay in power and keep their cronies at the trough.

Martin Neethling Apr 7, 2025, 06:51 AM

What Ntuli, Mashatile and Ramaphosa all share is an absolute block to the idea that power-sharing and compromise is what the GNU needs, what the agreement between the DA and the ANC says, and what the Monday night budget flip flop required. We were told that the ANC and DA were 99% there - the ANC accepted the real reforms needed in exchange, only for the ANC to shut up shop once they’d obtained the support elsewhere. It’s staggering how the ANC’s duplicity can be rewritten so easily.

blaxx47 Apr 7, 2025, 12:15 PM

That's feral Ferial for you, Martin. How can you STILL be "staggered"by her slants?

Glyn Morgan Apr 7, 2025, 01:53 PM

I agree.

Andrew S Apr 7, 2025, 07:04 AM

“Don’t interrupt your adversary, whilst they are making a mistake” - Ramaphosa considers the DA an adversary? The GNU was doomed. “There’s no one, comrades, as a minister who can implement programmes of a Budget for which they haven’t voted.” DA ministers were expected to implement the BELA bill and other things they hadn’t voted for. The GNU was doomed.

Karl Sittlinger Apr 7, 2025, 07:13 AM

Deeply ironic (or maybe moronic) that after 30 years of theft, mismanagement, corruption, useless cadre deployment, support of killers and thugs, it is the ANC that is "gatvol". From the get go the ANC has negotiated in bad faith and ignored the DA. If the GNU collapses it will be the ANCs fault; this posturing and actual brinkmanship is typical for the ANC. Hold tight DA, stay in in the GNU, till then carry on with litigation, the only language the ANC understands.

michele35 Apr 7, 2025, 07:22 AM

Let the money speak when Treasury needs to borrow the best part of R 450 billion and no one is willing to lend. ANC first then our wallets, then our supporters, the country does not matter so long as we have the three above. Quite clear and most disappointing. When statesmanship rather than brinkmanship is needed SA comes horribly short on both sides. Tragedy if the likes of McPherson were to be booted out as they were making a real difference. The ANC pursuing EFF votes

Peter Hood Apr 7, 2025, 09:07 AM

Only have to look at what’s collapsing in Tshwane since Mr Brink was removed; all the good work undone

Pieter van de Venter Apr 7, 2025, 12:30 PM

Spot on!!! It is easier these days to report which street lights are actually working than the broken ones.

Hidden Name Apr 7, 2025, 07:35 AM

ANC arrogance on full display. Anyone else a little concerned by obvious bias in the report?

R Mac Apr 7, 2025, 09:35 AM

More than a little concerned, this article is unusually one-sided for DM. No mention of what compromises the DA were asking for apart for the 0.5% VAT hike.

blaxx47 Apr 7, 2025, 01:25 PM

More than "a little" one sided,Mac. Ferial could have listed ALL the compromises that the ANC has made to bridge their differences - shouldn't take more than one line extra to her ANC plump. Still, disappointing for the DM not to have sent it back to her for a bit of balance. The last line "will publish the answers when they are received. DM" doesn't cut it.

Peter Dexter Apr 7, 2025, 08:00 AM

The ANC perceives themselves still to be the governing party with others there simply to rubber stamp their decisions. They have not accepted the concept of power sharing, and are stuck on their NDR ideology even though it is clearly failing.

Pieter van de Venter Apr 7, 2025, 08:23 AM

The real issue is locked up in the well known desk asseccory - 'let's compromise, move over to my point of view". The tome for the ANC way or no way, is over. And that is the real pojnt if irretation - the ANC is starting to realise, slowly, that 38% is not a majority. It seens AuctionSA is also starting to realise that the ANC can never be trusted.

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Apr 7, 2025, 08:44 AM

AuctionSA. Not sure whether a typo or intentional but I love it. ??

ANTHONY MCGUINNESS Apr 7, 2025, 12:00 PM

No Typo, the highest bidder gets their vote.

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Apr 7, 2025, 08:27 AM

This article would be better titled "Rhamaphosa pushes back on accountability, governance and the obvious."

Glyn Morgan Apr 7, 2025, 02:15 PM

Right.

Patterson Alan John Apr 7, 2025, 08:33 AM

The ANC believe that they have the numbers to lose the DA and maintain their control of decision-making. That may appear to be the case from the current budget support, but how will they manage the multiple small parties' demands as the months pass? The DA should seek small party alliances, move to the opposition benches and hold the ANC/GNU 2.0 to account. This is the only way that the ANC will understand that they are not the majority and cannot continue to do as they please.

blaxx47 Apr 7, 2025, 01:36 PM

Mmusi, Mashaba, Songezo, IFP all drooling at prospect of picking up the DA's six ministerial cloaks, in return for their Judas support of the s0-called fiscal framework. What can the DA in opposition offer those opportunists, to win their support?

Judith Heunis Apr 7, 2025, 08:36 AM

Seems to me that the “fatal mistake” was made by Godongwana when he presented his budget to parliament without first at least trying to make sure that the GNU would support it.

R S Apr 7, 2025, 09:19 AM

I'm guessing Ferial had deep ANC roots. All of her articles seem to treat the ANC with kid gloves.

Bryan Shepstone Apr 7, 2025, 10:13 AM

Agreed.

villasecun Apr 7, 2025, 09:38 AM

I can add nothing further to all the excellent, pertinent comments by the various readers. The behaviour and attitude of the ANC is disgraceful but unsurprising.

Jobst Bodenstein Apr 7, 2025, 10:10 AM

Ferial Haffajee is one of the sharpest political analysts in the country A few traits in considering what defines good journalism, must surely include insightfulness, good writing skills, and fearlessness in the face of fierce reactions to their articles And, of course, journalists are necessarily steeped in certain schools of thought I find the tone and level of reactions by many DM readers to certain commentators, now and over many years, most disconcerting Stop shooting the messengers

jcdvil Apr 7, 2025, 10:46 AM

Agree

Karl Sittlinger Apr 7, 2025, 10:47 AM

I read DM mainly because most of the time they are quite balanced. But when it comes to the DA, and reporting on the budget, articles were a little one sided. I think it is not shooting the messenger to comment on this especially if the messenger only delivers half the message. Still waiting for any article on DM discussing the demands the DA actually made in detail. These all would help the country, and none of them are unreasonable.

Jubilee 1516 Apr 7, 2025, 12:47 PM

Watch how she runs, splutters and stutters in the Joel Pollack interview when her and Rebecca Davis's clear anti-Afriforum bias spreading of semi-truths, interpretation of sovereignty are comfortably pierced and exposed, especially when he confronts her with the Hawks Treason case and the meaning of freedom of speech. Certainly not fearless, certainly not sufficient insight, certainly not the best journalism.

Hidden Name Apr 7, 2025, 02:20 PM

Loading up.... What a silly position to take. I mean really. One of the basic most simple tenants of journalism is to at least try to present an unbiased viewpoint. There was no such attempt made in this article - hence the complaints.

Ivan van Heerden Apr 7, 2025, 10:17 AM

Thanks DA Karens for rejecting this comment initially. Let us not forget that the arrogance and Baaskap attitude of the DA has brought about this mess. They stopped the 2% increase which was good. However after that the DA started dictating as to how and what was going to happen. This cannot happen in a GNU where they are a minority partner. In addition there is zero sensitivity to the fragile position Cyril has in the ANC vs the RET faction.

Karl Sittlinger Apr 7, 2025, 12:32 PM

What is the point of a GNU if all the members always have to say yes to all the ANC wants. Its absolute nonsense to frame this as the DA overstepping their mandate, and has nothing yo do with arrogance except if you factor in the ANC bad faith negotiations, while placating the DA they were already shopping around for votes. Now that's disgusting behavior right there. Do you even know what the DA asked for?

Pieter van de Venter Apr 7, 2025, 12:35 PM

Where did they dictate?? As late as last Monday the ANC had accepted all the DA points and then the ANC found a willing prostitute - AUctionSA and all of a sudden the ANC no longer negotiate. Who trying Baasskap on - Paulie the vice living intwo R30m+ houses??

Ivan van Heerden Apr 7, 2025, 05:14 PM

So the DA didn't try to dictate bills being removed? They didn't try to dictate additional ministerial and portfolio positions? They didn't launch a vitriolic attack on anyone who had the gall to try and get a budget passed so that the markets wouldn't go further down the toilet and then they didn't threaten to collapse the GNU. Yeah maybe your DA didn't do that but it sure appears that way to anyone who hasn't suckled on the Zillhuizen koolaid

keith.ciorovich Apr 7, 2025, 06:17 PM

At least you have outlined what the DA did not do. Its obvious you are not a fan of Helen Zille but she is brutally honest and has more integrity than than most in the anc.

Ivan van Heerden Apr 7, 2025, 08:42 PM

Sigh, I outlined exactly what the DA did do. Helen Zille is brutally honest as long as it is to the benefit of the DA. There is also a marked difference between brutally honest and arrogant which is what the DA have become. I work and travel throughout the country and deal with shop floor to management. Common theme, "The DA tells us what the ANC does not what they do" you are not going to woo the black vote until you get into Kasi and get your hands dirty and show you are better.

Sydney Kaye Apr 7, 2025, 06:36 PM

There is something wrong with this system where other readers can reject a comment, not because it is grossly offensive or obscene, but just because they want to censure it. If there has to be censorship (or moderation as it is now called) it should be the editors who at least have a reputation to protect .

dariosiefe Apr 7, 2025, 10:19 AM

"constitutional values and a commitment to nonracialism.” If only there was some practice to the preaching. The DA should get out of the GNU irrespective of the consequences as the ANC will never change.

dariosiefe Apr 7, 2025, 10:21 AM

My innocent comment has been sent for moderation ala News24 style. Wonder if the moderator is Ferial?

Nicholas Labuschagne Apr 7, 2025, 10:28 AM

Politicians of all stripes should pay close attention to the shift in attitudes against democracy by global populations. People are sick of their petty, spiteful and selfish behaviour. This failure to fulfil the most basic responsibilities explains the rise of autocracy worldwide. Unfortunately Churchill's comment that "democracy is the worst form of government - except for all those other forms that have been tried" no longer holds true. Read "The Revenge of Power".

Alan Salmon Apr 7, 2025, 10:28 AM

SA has a huge ideology gap. The DA - 20% of voters - support a Western way of doing things. The ANC, EFF, MK and others - 80%+ of voters - support Russia, Palestine, Iran etc, socialist/worker structures and are anti business. I just cannot see how we will ever succeed because of this huge basic difference.

Paul T Apr 7, 2025, 03:55 PM

Sorry, but I support the DA AND Palestine, but not Russia. Interesting to see how you assume that every person with Western leanings supports Israel. I really don't know how anyone who has done their research can support them, maybe it's just uncritical groupthink?

Sandra Goldberg Apr 7, 2025, 10:48 AM

What is ‘the fatal mistake’ that Mr Ntuli is talking about? That the DA had the temerity to oppose the ANC on the budget? Fallout and disagreements, particularly on monetary m atters , is a feature of coalitions in democracies and is to be expected. Where is the ‘fatal mistake’?

keith.ciorovich Apr 7, 2025, 11:05 AM

Leave the gnu now. The anc obviously do not appreciate the value of the DA. I know that the economy will take huge hit but maybe this is the only way to get the anc to focus on growing the economy and cutting the bloated public service to fit and prosecute those implicated in state capture. Action SA will find out the hard way that you cannot trust the anc.

G H Apr 7, 2025, 11:16 AM

I fear the ANC have already decided on going through with the divorce - any discussions are just a charade. The current global instability have gifted them what they treasure most; a scapegoat for their incompetence and patronage

Pieter van de Venter Apr 7, 2025, 12:28 PM

Remember Cup Cake, less than 2,000 businesses pay something like 75% of corporate tax and less than 1,7 m citizens pay 75% of private taxes. So push back too much, it will only be you and your ANC mates left to pay tax. I am sure that will not go down well. And keep on pushing back, and you might end up with R30 to the USD and just think what fuel and Rolexes will cost then. By the way, you are the president of a 30% part, Not 80%.

Michael Reynolds Apr 7, 2025, 12:49 PM

After the first budget was abandoned, the DA made non-financial demands on the ANC which they knew full well CR would not accept, as he would be pushed out as president if he did. The DA's negotiating team are arrogant and in serious need of lessons on negotiation. They should have stuck to demands related to curbing useless expenses - now they have negotiated their way out of GNU to the detriment of everybody.

Glyn Morgan Apr 7, 2025, 02:25 PM

The DA are there for the health of South Africa, not the political health of Ramaphosa.

Hidden Name Apr 7, 2025, 02:25 PM

All the DA really needs to do to demonstrate exactly how shaky the squirrels grip on power actually is is to call a vote of no-confidence in him. Immediately, bye, bye squirrel. Main reason they wouldnt do that is that the alternatives are too horrifying to contemplate. Its a very difficult situation with lots of ways to go bad and take us all along for the ride. The time for ANC arrogance is passed. They need to learn that, for all our sakes.

Glyn Morgan Apr 7, 2025, 01:42 PM

So the ANC are under some pressure. Tough. The DA has them on the ropes and they cry.....

Bennie Morani Apr 7, 2025, 01:51 PM

Ramaphosa is putting lipstick on a pig. The ANC, despite all their bluster, is in a difficult position whatever they do. The DA (and especially Helen Zille) are playing the long game, counting on punishment from voters after a chaotic new GNU. ActionSA are going to look silly when the ANC decides they want a VAT increase. Maybe only the EFF will get what it wants.

Bennie Morani Apr 7, 2025, 02:01 PM

Ramaphosa is putting lipstic on a pig. The ANC is in a very difficult position whatever they decide. The DA (and especially Helen Zille) are playing the long game, relying on the ANC being punished by voters in future after a chaotic new GNU if they kick the DA out. ActionSA will look silly when the ANC tries to push for a VAT increase. Only the EFF will get what it wants if they are invited to join a coalition government.

Johan Buys Apr 7, 2025, 02:06 PM

In this case (the VAT increase), the DA is mouthing to the audience and not common sense. VAT is broad-based and the most efficient way to generate more revenue, which revenue is crucial for reducing our debt costs, until we can implement austerity spending. Austerity spending in SA means cutting public service bill. That means freezing increases of all persons over R1m a year, which will not easily get approved by ANC / DA / any politician.

Karl Sittlinger Apr 7, 2025, 02:26 PM

You could of course stop some of the waste, corruption and perks first? What about the 30% BEE tariff? There is much money to be saved before any tax increase is necessary. The DA has pretty detailed ideas on how to do this, maybe it's worth to at least listen to these ideas? Not like the ANC has done well in the last 25 years. Maybe DM could publish in a bit more detail what the DA has planned and what demands they made.

Johan Buys Apr 7, 2025, 10:03 PM

Karl : we could / should tackle waste & corruption, but the elephant in the room is the sheer quantum of public service salaries (national, provincial, metro, council, SOE, agencies). That will not increase at even HALF of mid point SARB inflation target. I have asked for two years for a publication to PAIA a stratified table in say R250k per annum brackets the numbers per category. I bet there are tens of thousands in the R1.5m+ category. Nobody can argue because nobody knows

G H Apr 7, 2025, 03:44 PM

Surprised at having to re-post this... I fear the ANC have already decided on going through with the divorce – any discussions are just a charade. GNU hunting season is open, because the current global instability have gifted them what they treasure most; a scapegoat for their incompetence and kleptocratic patronage

Sydney Kaye Apr 7, 2025, 06:27 PM

They do not listen to business! So do they listen to. The SACP who still obstruct any form it modernisation to policy and the DG in Dirco who is obsessed with Palestine for good personal reasons. "Reform had been going on since. 2020." Yes, and nothing to show for it. "The DA thinks there is no capacity in government without them". True

Carsten Rasch Apr 7, 2025, 10:50 PM

Sorry, couldn't get past the sentence ‘the ANC is really gatvol’. Hilarious. WE ARE GATVOL OF THE ANC! How much harder must we shout? Until they’re the 10% party??

roelf.pretorius Apr 8, 2025, 02:57 AM

Ramaphosa AND the ANC should remember that such a government coalition means all the political parties are equal - it is arrogant and counter-productive to claim that "whether you like it or not, we lead this GNU". Also, right from the beginning, the ANC was the party who did not co-operate; the budget presented by Godongwana did not have the support of the 60% that the GNU agreement required. And the DA's demands were actually not unreasonable at all; it was quite modest.

roelf.pretorius Apr 8, 2025, 03:04 AM

. . . I must also say that the DA should also remember that they are not an opposition party any more. They now have a responsibility to assist in governing. But Ramaphosa and the ANC should also climb down from from their "throne". I also don't believe that the EFF is really willing to support the budget; that is exactly the opposite of what everyone except the ANC says. The ANC should simply realise that they can't go on as when they were still ruling on their own.

roelf.pretorius Apr 8, 2025, 03:07 AM

. . . Furthermore, the ANC must remember that the DA brought a lot of positive new energy to government; what are they going to say to their voters after the DA has gone? OK, now it is back to the old bad normal? They are setting themselves up for complete rejection by the voters! It is time they come back to earth and realise that the era of ANC domination is over.

Tim Spring Apr 8, 2025, 09:46 AM

" In the end, I want it to be clear that the ANC will not be influenced by what business says.” Unfortunately readily apparent from the management of this economy over the last 20 years.

Michael Clark Apr 8, 2025, 11:00 AM

"Rather be a weak president than split the ANC" ANC 1st SA. 2nd is still very much in play!

Get off my lawn Apr 8, 2025, 02:02 PM

"There’s no one, comrades, as a minister who can implement programmes of a Budget for which they haven’t voted. It can’t be done." What nonsense is this? Of course it can. I may not always agree with what I'm asked to do or how I'm asked to do it, but once the decision has been made it needs to be done to the best of my ability, whether I like it or not. I didn't vote for a VAT increase, can I say paying it can't be done because I didn't vote for it? In that case, sure, I'm all for this argument :D