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How SA’s democratic society weakens Ramaphosa’s hand against Rwandan dictatorship

The deaths of 14 South African soldiers at the hands of the Rwanda-sponsored M23 group in the DRC pose many problems for President Cyril Ramaphosa. But, in what is becoming a very difficult tussle with Rwandan President Paul Kagame, the democratic nature of SA society may weaken him significantly. Despite that, he can look forward to a much quieter retirement than his opponent.
How SA’s democratic society weakens Ramaphosa’s hand against Rwandan dictatorship

The noise about the situation in Goma makes it easy to forget the main reason our soldiers are there. It doesn’t matter whether you describe them as “peacekeepers” or as part of a particular bloc of countries.

They are there to protect civilians who live there. 

As Reuters has reported, M23 members have been moving through the city taking over its operations. This is not democratic and it is unlikely that its members care about due process for civilians.

For this reason alone there is a strong moral argument for our soldiers to be there.

As we are a democracy that believes in human rights, we must believe in human rights for everyone everywhere, whether they be in Goma or Gaza.

In this case, unfortunately, our soldiers have been placed in harm’s way, and some have paid the ultimate price.

Kagame’s advantages


It is clear that Kagame has certain advantages over Ramaphosa because of the nature of our society which has many groups of people with different interests who are protected by the rule of law.

This means that Ramaphosa cannot act as decisively as Kagame can. And, because Kagame has such tight control of Rwandan society, he can act with resolve.

For example, he obviously has very tight control of his military and can surely hire and fire generals at will.

In South Africa, Ramaphosa has to deal with generals who play golf while soldiers are dying.

No Rwandan general would be that brave.

The SANDF is also unionised (following a Constitutional Court ruling many years ago that soldiers have rights in the workplace), which means that the voices of soldiers are being heard in our public domain. The SA National Defence Union (Sandu) has been giving interviews and offering critiques of government policy, and explaining exactly how under-resourced the SANDF is.

This points to a bigger problem for Ramaphosa, in that he has to contend with a multitude of voices who are critical of his actions, no matter what he does.

It is not just Sandu that is critical of our strategy, there are opposition parties (an urgent debate is scheduled in Parliament on this issue), perhaps some parties in the national coalition, and many other voices.

Public opinion


Rwanda’s foreign minister and government spokespeople have been giving regular interviews to South African media. This essentially allows Kagame to try to win the fight for South African public opinion right in Ramaphosa’s political territory.

As Rwanda is not such an open society, this is a huge advantage for him.

Then there is the fact that Kagame has shown many times that he will do things Ramaphosa will simply not do. While Ramaphosa’s political consciousness was forged during apartheid and the difficulties of township life during that time, Kagame’s was forged in war.

And while Ramaphosa has always used his political skills to find solutions to problems, Kagame has used violence and is prepared to do so again.

He is even prepared to do that in South Africa. 

One of his domestic enemies, the former Rwandan spy boss Patrick Karegeya was murdered at The Michelangelo Towers hotel in Sandton in 2014.

For one country to kill a person in another country has often been casus belli (cause for war) in the past. And yet it is unthinkable that Ramaphosa would do something like this in return.

Reporting by the British journalist Michela Wrong has also shown how Rwanda has maintained its reputation among aid agencies while still committing acts of violence.

This also shows a much bigger strategic problem for Ramaphosa. He wants to protect both the lives of civilians in Goma and our soldiers. Kagame just wants to win. His aim is much simpler and thus easier to achieve. 

The fact Kagame can use violence in this way, has military superiority in the area and little regard for human life, enables him to change the facts on the ground. This is very similar to what Israel has done in Gaza.

Ramaphosa has none of these advantages and is limited only to words and the use of international public opinion.

Unfortunately, this may not be enough … and Kagame has some cards to play here too.

International support


For many years, Kagame has been strongly supported by international groups and aid agencies, who believe that he has brought peace to a very difficult area. Along with this, he has brought much better living standards. As a result, even someone as experienced in global politics as Tony Blair has supported him staying in office.

While Kagame may have shown more dictatorial tendencies in recent years, this support may be slow to shift.

Also, Kagame has played a role in at least one other part of Africa that may now return the favour.

During the height of what is often called the “Islamist insurgency” in Cabo Delgado in Mozambique a SADC force, including South Africans, was sent to repel armed groups. These militia groups were using violence to take over certain areas and forcing civilians to live under their law.

But in the end, Mozambique had to ask Kagame to send soldiers to that area, where it appears they were more effective.

As a result, Mozambique’s ruling party Frelimo may well feel it owes a debt to Kagame. And, as Zimbabwe’s government is run by people who are blatantly transactional, Ramaphosa may not be able to rely on any kind of moral principle emerging from the SADC bloc.

It should not be forgotten that there is a large amount of trade between South Africa and Rwanda. If Rwanda were democratic in the way that South Africa is, this would allow Ramaphosa to use SA’s bigger economy as a point of leverage. But because Kagame operates as a dictator, he can shrug off any economic cost, while Ramaphosa may not be able to do this.

Ramaphosa’s options


While this suggests that dealing with Rwanda will be difficult for Ramaphosa, he does still have some options.

He could well speak bluntly about the presumed motives for Kagame’s actions and state in a very public forum (such as the United Nations) that Kagame is using M23 to control valuable minerals in the DRC. While this would incense Kagame (who would deny it) it would at least display to the world what this violence is really about.

Also, he could make the case more loudly for the protection of civilians in Goma. This could put Kagame under pressure in some ways.

But it could also, with deft political actions, be used to remind South Africans of what we are supposed to stand for.

If he were to give an impassioned speech to Parliament explaining our soldiers did not die in a foreign land for nothing, that they did so to protect the lives of fellow Africans, that he is committed to protecting everyone everywhere, whether they be in Goma or Gaza, that could well strengthen his position.

Certainly, it could make him look like a strong and principled leader and perhaps make Kagame look more like what he is, a murderous dictator.

While the outcome of this stand-off is uncertain and may be for some time, one thought might well console Ramaphosa.

When his term ends he can look forward to a long and peaceful retirement. Kagame can never retire and his time as leader of Rwanda is unlikely to end peacefully. DM

Comments

elintna Feb 2, 2025, 09:37 PM

We can talk about human rights all day & night for the rest of eternity, but one thing is certain, that OUR human rights are being abused, whilst the ANC is trying to pull a PR stunt. Everything is not well at home, so that is the problem, first look after your OWN PEOPLE then do for others

Scotty84 Feb 3, 2025, 05:27 AM

You're so right, S.A. needs to terminate corruption to be seen to be a "leader of people" not a BBBEE nation, here even Musk protests our intimidatory policies, which the other African countries accept to obtain world beatin communication.

Con Tester Feb 2, 2025, 09:47 PM

Quite a muddle of starry-eyed, Panglossian confection. The SANDF’s mandate in the DRC (since Zuma, 2013) is peace enforcement, which is much more than peacekeeping. It’s to protect vested SAn mining interests farther afield in the DRC, likely including Ramaposer’s family’s.

Barann Feb 3, 2025, 06:32 AM

And I believe that is the main reason they are there.....purely fervour dishonourable politicians gain

Thomas Cleghorn Feb 3, 2025, 08:05 AM

Interesting, it does seem Patrice Motsepe has quite a stake in the DRC via African Rainbow Minerals (ARM).

Ashley Stone Feb 3, 2025, 08:33 AM

Exactly!

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 11:24 AM

Nothing in the ARM Annual Report about that - it did have an exploration company looking at minerals in soutehrn DRC about 20 years ago, though.

Colin Braude Feb 3, 2025, 08:31 AM

Odd that none of SA's excellent investigative journalists have deep dived into the persistent rumour of nomenklatural mining interests in the DRC.

D'Esprit Dan Feb 4, 2025, 11:51 AM

Maybe they have and there's nothing to see?

Con Tester Feb 4, 2025, 03:58 PM

Patrice Motsepe is the founder/owner/chairman of Ubuntu-Botho Investments (UBI), of which African Rainbow Capital (ARC) is a 100% owned subsidiary. ARC’s portfolio includes investment in Kropz, which has a 90% stake in the Congolese Hinda phosphate project. That's just one connection.

Con Tester Feb 4, 2025, 05:22 PM

There are bound to be other, more obscure connections, and not just to Motsepe, that a dedicated researcher could unearth in a few hours. Given the rapid global rise in copper and cobalt demand and the DRC’s known reserves of those ores, that’s where the initial focus should land.

Con Tester Feb 4, 2025, 05:47 PM

Another company headquartered in SA with fingers in several DRC mining operations is Metorex. I don’t have access to the CIPC database, so I don’t know its ownership details, past or present.

Con Tester Feb 4, 2025, 06:28 PM

Seek out an article titled “It’s back pay time for South Africa in DRC” [sic] on the numsa(dot)org(dot)za website. Though 20 years old, it details big SAn investments of various kinds in the DRC, including in mining. SOEs Eskom and Spoornet (now Transnet) are directly named.

Annika Larsson Feb 4, 2025, 09:58 PM

These are pretty convincing posts to dispel the idea that South Africa doesn’t have direct financial reasons for posting soldiers to the DRC. What say you, @D'Esprit Dan?

Con Tester Feb 5, 2025, 11:33 AM

@Annika, we’ll see what he says, if anything. Having encountered it numerous times in the past, my money is on him feigning not to have seen the info provided, and repeating this “Aw shucks, no evidence” line when the topic next arises, as seen several times under this article.

Con Tester Feb 7, 2025, 03:22 PM

It's telling how some people just evaporate from a discussion thread after you put some verifiable facts on the table. They disappear and pop up again elsewhere, only to repeat their discredited canards. It's almost funny.

Malcolm McManus Feb 2, 2025, 09:57 PM

In order to be a peace keeper, there needs to be peace to start with. Some sort of agreement between warring parties. This is missing. It makes the sandf a combatant taking a side. This seems problematic.

pietskietvantond Feb 3, 2025, 01:31 AM

SA in general can never be impartial. The cadres always have ulterior motives.

Penny Philip Feb 3, 2025, 07:57 AM

Realistically there isn't a country on the planet that doesn't have ulterior motives. No country does any government aid/ peace keeping in another country without expecting something in return.

Malcolm McManus Feb 3, 2025, 08:33 AM

Sad, but true. I do think Africa takes it to the extreme though. It shows in the state were in. At least the developed world tends to make a bigger difference to their own society with whatever they plunder. Here only a select few prosper. The state of infrastructure and poverty prove this.

BOB Rernard Feb 3, 2025, 11:26 AM

...and those that do (expect nothing in return) are abject failures...like the UN in the balkans, in Rwanda and almost everywhere else they have been sent.

Michael Thomlinson Feb 3, 2025, 10:28 AM

Absolutely correct Malcolm. Stephen talks about protecting civilians but that should be the job of the DRC government ie. to evacuate civilians from the combat zone. The inept SANDF was simply taking sides and has now burnt it's fingers.

Jean Racine Feb 2, 2025, 10:35 PM

Correction Stephen: Nyusi in Moz approached Kagame for help whilst delaying approving a SADC mission. He did this because he resented that SADC military help came with the condition that FRELIMO address the socio-economic grievances behind the insurgency.

G C Feb 3, 2025, 12:55 AM

You position Ramaphosa as an angel, He shouldn't have sent South African troops without air cover. This has happened before and South Africa had to ask the french to get them out of Banqui. What a depressing mess, South Africa will walk away from this with egg on her face.

Penny Philip Feb 3, 2025, 08:00 AM

SA has commitments to the AU,

pietskietvantond Feb 3, 2025, 01:29 AM

Squirrel has no idea how to act decisively. He doesn't understand the meaning of decisively. The SANDF is in the DRC to protect the mining interest of Motsepe and kie.

abuchan Feb 3, 2025, 08:20 AM

Nothing could be more true . Motsepe et Al are heavily invested in coltan mining. You wonder SARS chasing after R20.00 tax assessment with penalties and fines , whereas profits from motsepe mining are channelled to Swiss and Dubai accounts .

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:44 AM

Do you have any proof of this allegation? Credible reports suggest illegal coltan mining is controlled through Rwanda and Uganda. I have not read a single report that in any way implicates SA or SA citizens. I'm no fan of Motsepe or Cyril, but I am of objectivity.

User Feb 3, 2025, 01:50 PM

Agree Dan. Accept when it comes to Trump your objectivity is a bit shaky (wink wink).

D'Esprit Dan Feb 4, 2025, 11:54 AM

Nope.It's 200% spot on! The greatest spot-on-ness ever.

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:36 AM

ARM had an exploration company in DRC in 2005. They have no mines there anymore.

User Feb 3, 2025, 03:24 AM

Kagama, with an estimate wealth of $500 million, and Ramaposa, with an estimate wealth of $450 million, are having a "mine is bigger than yours" contest while our soldiers are literally dying in the Congo. Seems that the big men do not care about lives of their fellow Africans.

Penny Philip Feb 3, 2025, 08:04 AM

Do you think any millionaires/ billionaires anywhere in the world really care about any people in the lower income groups ?

User Feb 3, 2025, 08:46 AM

Trump.

G H Feb 3, 2025, 09:17 AM

Hehehehehehe - how's you Trump magic-internet-money memecoin doing?

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:45 AM

Bwahahahaha! Thanks for the laugh on a Monday morning - just what I needed!

User Feb 3, 2025, 11:57 AM

Your welcome Mr. Intelligence Officer.

Noelsoyizwap Feb 3, 2025, 02:10 PM

It wouldn't be proper to reduce this into a contest between 2 heads of state. While contributing more troops, SA is not acting on its own mandate here. As "immoral" to some as they may be, but this is a SADC mission, by extention, AU & UN. So, SA cannot act unilaterally, even if it may want to.

Daniel Cohen Feb 3, 2025, 06:11 AM

The current debacle has little or nothing to do with democracy vs dictatorship. For starters Israel is a democracy, and a fractured and fractious one, at that. This has to do with weak vs good leadership, competence vs incompetence, bad vs hood decision making, strategic thinking vs ...and so on

Noelsoyizwap Feb 3, 2025, 06:25 AM

The M23 leader Makenga, while a Congolese, is said to have previously fought in the Rwandan army. So, Rwanda's influence over M23 is clear here. But what Africa must decisively addresse is the refusal by dictators to accept colonial borders. This tendency is a source of instability

Malcolm McManus Feb 3, 2025, 07:07 AM

What difference does it make. South Africa is a failed state, that has no borders. The ANC couldn't care less who crosses them. Why should they care who crosses the borders of Congo then. Clearly something in it for the Cadres.

pietskietvantond Feb 3, 2025, 07:09 AM

Borders are not cast in stone. That is part of the problem with colonial borders.

Noelsoyizwap Feb 3, 2025, 07:38 AM

Borders between SA and its six neighbours is an example of agreed borders, and is being respected. Part of the problem of DRC is Rwanda not respecting DRC's authority over Kinyarwadans in eastern Congo. Imagine Botswana making it difficult for SA to govern the North West province

pietskietvantond Feb 3, 2025, 08:32 AM

The DRC government is not treating the Kinyarwadans fairly. Apparently the reason why Putin invaded Ukraine was because the Ukrainian government is not treating the Russian speakers fairly.

awagema Feb 3, 2025, 08:55 AM

Nonsense, sorry, but Putin invaded Ukraine for it’s resources and access to the Black Sea. You don’t really think uncle Vlad cares about the poor, do you?

Noelsoyizwap Feb 3, 2025, 10:07 AM

True, DRC must take some responsibility. "The entire ocean of water cannot sink a ship, until the ship allows water to go in"

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:49 AM

Putin a a colonialist masquerading as a Russian nationalist. Remember where the last bloke who had a policy of lebensraum ended up! Can't happen soon enough to Putin.

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:47 AM

Well, except both Lesotho and Eswatini claim large swathes of South Africa as historially theirs!

William Stucke Feb 3, 2025, 07:54 PM

That's interesting. Please provide more details, in multiple 300 char tranches if needed.

MC Ngwevela Feb 3, 2025, 06:50 AM

Sounds good BUT lacks critical facts. Goma and Gaza are incomparable. M23 militias go toe to toe not like hit and run by Hamas, that Ramaphosa supported by litigation, who use civilians as shields and hospitals as command centres where tunnels run from. Kagame is a proxy for USA hence supported.

William Stucke Feb 3, 2025, 07:56 PM

Well said, Sir. The only point in common between Gaza and Goma is the initial letter. Stephen, your LW biases are showing. Again.

Peter Atller Feb 3, 2025, 06:55 AM

Kagame, was and is still a puppet of the West, -feeding the West need for rare earth minerals through conflict. Kagame arrogance is the usual strongman attitude, spat with ZA- outcome, UN Security council condemnation, UK and EU relooking their relationship with PK. World focus on Congo, PK is done.

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:52 AM

Kagame was seen as a man who could bring stability to a highly toxic region, beset by genocides and brutal low-level conflicts in the 1990s. At the time, it was the right decision to back him, lest the region implode even further. Let's face it, the AU, BRICS etc do nothing to stop it!

Peter Atller Feb 3, 2025, 11:30 AM

That is narrative, I was surprised to discover, Kagame was the reason for genocide of his own people! and his bush lord status, funded by the The West as he secures their rare earth metals in DRC. What can the AU do, the west does its usual cash diplomacy. BRICS is getting itself up and running.

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 12:47 PM

Kagame was fighting the regime in Kigali - he wasn't responsible for the genocide that followed. And the bulk of Africa's illicit minerals are funnelled through Dubai anyway. It's Ground Zero for every sleazebag in Africa. BRICS has no united policies, and expansion dilutes that further.

Peter Atller Feb 3, 2025, 01:47 PM

That is the spin, go and read up -especially personal accounts of Rwanadians. How the West dry cleaned his image, 24 years in power and not a peep from the West? West, Dubai, we know how world capital no longer see nationality nor have allegiance, its all about the next billion. they can make.

Peter Atller Feb 3, 2025, 01:50 PM

As for Brics, it is a far more even configuration. The US lost the unipolar moment after the collapse of the USSR and instead of reshaping the world to its will, all it did was war, war and more war.

Rod MacLeod Feb 3, 2025, 01:48 PM

Your comments below about Kagame are utter BS, fake news of the highest order. Kagame was a commander of the Rwandan Patriotic Front which brought an END to the genocide through the civil war. I can't believe trolls like you can get on this forum.

Andrew Blaine Feb 3, 2025, 07:15 AM

When and where in Africa (less Botswana) has there been a government with any moral ethics

Noelsoyizwap Feb 3, 2025, 08:14 AM

It would be very disappointing if Botswana, with only 2.7m population, occupying 46% km² the size of SA and endowed with all minerals that SA has, wouldn't do better.

Rod MacLeod Feb 3, 2025, 01:54 PM

That is 46% of semi-desert. They do way better than the ANC with 70m people, infinitely better inherited infrastructure, water resources gazillion times greater, ports and multiple airports, telecoms, power generative capacity, hospitals, etc etc all of which have been effed up.

Lawrence Sisitka Feb 3, 2025, 07:43 AM

Blair, of course, was fully behind Bush in promulgating the war against the phantom 'weapons of mass destruction' in Iraq, so hardly someone whose understanding of global politics should be cited :)! But you are right Stephen, Ramaphosa doesn't stand a cat's chance in hell against Kagame.

phophi Feb 3, 2025, 07:54 AM

"This means that Ramaphosa cannot act as decisively as Kagame can. And, because Kagame has such tight control of Rwandan society, he can act with resolve". Ramaphosa has never acted decisively even when the law permits him to do so. If he was decisive he could have fired Thembi Simelane.

John Cartwright Feb 3, 2025, 07:57 AM

Excellent and thoughtful analysis.

Colin Braude Feb 3, 2025, 08:23 AM

Stephen, if you are going to competer with Bellpottinger, it is your reputation that gets damaged. The ANC belief "in human rights for everyone everywhere" doesn't reach Kurds, Hamas' hostages, Mozamabique, Stilfontein, Sudan, Uyghurs, its own necklacing victims or SA victims of crime.

Andrew Newman Feb 3, 2025, 08:45 AM

You ignore Trump in this. Kagame and Trump are allies. Trump's attack on South Africa yesterday was not a coincidence.

Andrew Newman Feb 3, 2025, 09:59 AM

Rubio spoke to Kegami not Rhamaphosa.

User Feb 3, 2025, 01:55 PM

Trump's attack was on BEE, reverse apartheid legislation and land expropriation. At least get your facts right.

Just Another Day Feb 3, 2025, 08:47 AM

Like most, Stephen Grootes suffers amnesia. Rather readd the book titled "We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Families" before commentating. There can be no normal following such an event. Kagame is not even int he top 20 of world's current longest serving leaders.

Just Another Day Feb 3, 2025, 08:51 AM

Like most, Stephen Grootes suffers amnesia. Rather read the book titled “We Wish to Inform You That Tomorrow We Will Be Killed with Our Families” before commentating. There can be no normal following such an event. Kagame is not even in the top 20 of world’s current longest serving leaders.

erizia Feb 3, 2025, 09:36 AM

Rwanda is the Isreal of Africa. And shares the same sinister backers. Western corporations desperate to get their greedy hands on resources. Hence Kagama enjoys the dubious endorsement of Tony Bliar, a war criminal unable to walk the streets of Britain alone. By their friends we shall know them!

johnbpatson Feb 3, 2025, 10:13 AM

Bit naive to think that M23 does not have majority support among the population, and SA's presence is to "protect civilians." As always the right answer would be to have a referendum of N and S Kivu independence, and to promote peaceful political parties, something which will not happen.

User Feb 3, 2025, 10:16 AM

Yawn. More candy-floss rose-tinted garbage from someone who used to be a good journalist. To start off stating that SA is there to protect civilians is nonsense and against anything the ANC does. Remember Mugabe? Remember the BS of 'quiet diplomacy'? Where were concerns for 'the civilians' then?

Rob Alexander Feb 3, 2025, 10:23 AM

What drivel. Grootes has lost the plot. Ramaphosa this, Kagama that. Blah Blah Blah....SA lacks a military capability in the DRC because of the ANC and it's policies. Say so, for G_D's sake!

D'Esprit Dan Feb 3, 2025, 10:28 AM

Not often I'll call Grootes' writing tosh, but this is: If Cyril was principled, he'd fire the golfing generals, appoint a competent Defence Minister, and crush the rife corruption in the SANDF, which has left our troops defenceless. And Stephen, our exports to Rwanda are 1% of those to Botswana.

Cunningham Ngcukana Feb 3, 2025, 10:37 AM

There are two issues. The first being in the DRC for peace keeping and we need to understand what the peace process in place is. The second is to support the DRC against rebels which we need to understand the basis for the decision. Lastly, it is the nonexistent military capacity for the missions.

User Feb 3, 2025, 12:17 PM

A good starting point is the government of the ridiculously-named Democratic Republic of The Congo (nothing at all democratic here - Kabila dada hands over to Kabila Baba and so on). Spouth African ANC politicians and a number of companies have a massive interest in keeping the corrupt and inept in

Alan Watkins Feb 3, 2025, 11:27 AM

Some numbers... M23 apparently has 6000 soldiers backed by 4000 soldiers from Rwanda SA has 2000 soldiers in DRC, DRC army has retreated/surrendered SA has total number of soldiers in army 38 000, DRC 103 000, Rwanda 33 00 Populations SA 60m, DRC 102m, Rwanda 14m

Con Tester Feb 3, 2025, 11:48 AM

Israel has indicated that it will support Rwanda and Kagame in the event of a conflict with South Africa. This likely has much to do with SA's case at the ICJ, which may well have been prompted by an Iranian bribe to the then-suddenly-flush ANC. Oh, and the SANDF is no match for the IDF.

keith.ciorovich Feb 3, 2025, 08:20 PM

I do not think our defence force can protect us from the Zama Zama's from Lesotho .

Rob Alexander Feb 3, 2025, 12:23 PM

To equate Kagame’s actions in the DRC with Israel’s actions in Gaza is a calculated, antisemitic comparison. I had respect for Grootes’ intelligence and journalistic competency but no longer. I am appalled.

Zanele Mabuza Feb 3, 2025, 12:51 PM

"They are there to protect civilians who live there" - yet the civilians right here at home cannot even walk down the street....

Beyond Fedup Feb 3, 2025, 01:43 PM

On Stephen’s comment that SA believes in human rights, this needs challenging. This abominable anc government believes in SELECTIVE human rights that suits our warped agenda as our actions/pontificating show. What about human rights in MOZ, ZIM, Russia, China, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Sudan

Gavin Hillyard Feb 3, 2025, 02:19 PM

Kagame is no idiot and will run rings around his inept SA counterpart. Despite his shortcomings, Kagame's policies ended the genocide, stabilized the area, and have benefitted all in Rwanda. Their GDP growth is reportedly about 7% p.a. Some might say that SA Inc. needs someone like him here?

Roke Wood Feb 3, 2025, 02:22 PM

Kagame is a despot. Why not go old school and send a proper sized army over with 2 or 3 recce regiments and bliksem Kagame and his rebels back into Rwanda where they belong. Do it properly, with tanks and air support and live intelligence etc... our army size is more than double that of Rwanda.

keith.ciorovich Feb 3, 2025, 08:31 PM

So where are we going to get the tanks and air support from. Our defense force is a shambles and badly led . I will leave the intelligence out. I do agree however Kagame is a despot . However he saved the country from the 1994 genocide.

Gavin Hillyard Feb 3, 2025, 02:41 PM

Please Stephen! You need to read up on Ruanda-Urundi (not a spelling mistake) history before posting. A very complex situation going back 1 000 years. Kagame is no angel, but he has brought peace, prosperity and unity to his country. Africa needs strong leaders, unlike the jellyfish we have

Michael Haines Feb 4, 2025, 03:53 PM

Correct. Kagame has long held deep-rooted genocidal conflict at bay while growing Rwanda's economy at 7.5%, albeit with a draconian dictatorial fist. He needs media support of peace not indifference to the DRC/FDLR led terror attacks. Are the Ramaphosa DRC mining interests a complication?

Cunningham Ngcukana Feb 4, 2025, 09:51 AM

The problem lies with us for supporting a belligerent mission without objectives and an exit strategy. The worst thing is to embark on such a mission with poor military planning and no capabilities in logistics and other critical areas. It is important that there is accountability for this mission.

T'Plana Hath Feb 4, 2025, 01:24 PM

Spot on! It's like Vietnam taught us nothing! We'll either have an A Shau or My Lai coming in the mail real soon. "And they were sharp, as sharp as knives. They heard the hum of our motors. They counted the rotors. And waited for us to arrive. And we would all ... go down ...together."

Annika Larsson Feb 4, 2025, 05:07 PM

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A Rosebank Ratepayer Feb 11, 2025, 09:11 AM

So many journalists comment on Rwanda without having visited. They would find many attributes of society they hopefully aspire to. SA’s appalling crime, corruption and unemployment are the result of SA’s so called democracy. Ironically only elites who include journalists can live well in SA.