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SADC leaders likely to withdraw forces from DRC, including SANDF

Regional leaders will probably seek an ‘orderly’ withdrawal from the blood-soaked battlefield, fearing a ‘haphazard’ withdrawal will seriously damage the credibility of SADC.
SADC leaders likely to withdraw forces from DRC, including SANDF Southern African leaders are expected to decide on Friday, 31 January to withdraw their military force from the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) after its bloody battle with the Rwanda-backed M23 rebels over the past week. But the Southern African Development Community (SADC ) wants the withdrawal of its SADC Mission in DRC (SAMIDRC) to be “orderly”, and to be preceded by a ceasefire and the relaunch of credible peace talks among the main eastern DRC belligerents – mainly Kinshasa, Kigali and the M23. It fears that a “haphazard” withdrawal will seriously damage the credibility of SADC and therefore jeopardise any future military interventions, Daily Maverick was told.  [caption id="attachment_2566115" align="alignnone" width="1892"]rwanda Democratic Republic of Congo Protesters outside the damaged Rwandan Embassy during a march in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, 28 January 2025. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Chris Milosi)[/caption] SADC announced on Wednesday that it would hold an extraordinary summit in Harare on Friday “on the security situation in the eastern part of Democratic Republic of Congo”. The meeting would be chaired by Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa, current SADC chairperson.  How to get SAMIDRC out of the country in an orderly way would be the main item on the agenda, a Pretoria source said.  Daily Maverick understands that DRC – which originally called for SADC military intervention in 2023 – this week asked SADC to reinforce SAMIDRC to take on M23/Rwanda again. “But no one is keen on that. There’s no appetite for that,” the Pretoria source told us.  “We need to get all parties to agree to a ceasefire. And then you need some kind of roadmap for peace talks. And once you have those talks resuming in earnest with a ceasefire in place, then you can start that gradual withdrawal.”

SADC failure

However SADC spins it though, it has failed to meet its objectives in DRC and any withdrawal seems likely to look like a retreat.  SAMIDRC, comprising South African, Tanzanian and Malawian troops, deployed in the country in December 2023 with a robust mandate to defeat M23 and other rebel groups. But after earlier losses, nine South African soldiers and three Malawians were killed and many more injured trying to halt a major offensive by M23/Rwandans against the provincial capital of Goma in two days late last week.  [caption id="attachment_2566116" align="alignnone" width="1802"]france kinshasa A fire set by protesters burns outside the damaged French Embassy during a march in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on 28 January 2025. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Chris Milosi)[/caption] Another three SANDF soldiers were killed in the crossfire of an exchange of mortar fire by the M23/Rwandans and the DRC army at Goma airport on Monday. One of those injured last week also died.  M23/Rwanda now holds Goma, though there have been reports of isolated skirmishes with DRC forces in parts of the city. Goma is a big prize and potential bargaining chip for M23 and Rwanda, which also captured some other smaller towns along the way.

SANDF isolated

Despite a fierce fight, the SANDF soldiers are now isolated, possibly trapped in their bases, at Goma and in Sake some 23km to the northwest. They negotiated a truce with M23 on Monday to enable both sides to collect their dead, according to one official, but their situation remains unclear. The Malawian and Tanzanian contingents seem to be in a similar predicament. At least seven of the SA soldiers killed were part of SAMIDRC and at least two were part of the UN peacekeeping force Monusco. The SANDF has not said on which mission the remaining four were. A Uruguayan soldier in Monusco also died in the fighting last week.  On Tuesday night, the troika of SADC’s security organ met virtually to decide how to respond to the defeat of SAMIDRC. Its recommendations will be discussed at the full in-person summit in Harare on Friday. Daily Maverick was told that it was likely the full summit would decide to withdraw SAMIDRC, though this would be done in an orderly way, not least to preserve trust in the organisation. The Pretoria source pointed out that SADC had in December 2024 extended SAMIDRC’s mission by a year, so it was due to leave in December this year. That meant the force should begin gradually withdrawing from about mid-2025.  [caption id="attachment_2566111" align="alignnone" width="1806"]military contractors Men believed to be military contractors wait at the La Corniche border crossing point between Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda at Gisenyi, Rwanda, on 29 January 2025, before crossing into Rwanda. The M23 rebel group in the DRC have taken control of parts of Goma which lies close to the border of Rwanda. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Moise Niyonzima)[/caption] But the withdrawal should take place parallel to a formal peace process and only after an active ceasefire was in place that was being honoured by all concerned parties. “And so you are able to then say the threat to human lives, innocent people, is significantly reduced. “If there is a peace process under way, then you can start … gradual withdrawal.” For this to happen, though, diplomatic efforts would have to be intensified, the Pretoria source said, so that when SAMIDRC withdrew, some headway would have been made in peace negotiations.  “But the bottom line is, the reality is, you cannot afford a haphazard withdrawal.” A haphazard withdrawal would undermine trust and credibility in SADC’s ability to intervene in the future, he said. It is a moot point, though, whether that has not already happened.

‘SA’s regional power has ended’

“This is the end of South Africa as a regional power for the next decade at least,” Darren Olivier, defence expert at the African Defence Review, told Daily Maverick.  And it is also not clear if Rwandan President Paul Kagame, who now calls the shots, will agree to the gradual withdrawal of SAMIDRC that SADC wants.  The Pretoria source suggested that SAMIDRC should not be blamed for the defeat. It was pointed out to him that the same three SADC countries, SA, Tanzania and Malawi, had defeated the M23 in 2013 as part of a Monusco unit, and driven it out of DRC. But the source said this time it was different because Monusco had earlier begun withdrawing from eastern DRC “so it did not have the capacity it had had earlier…” “Number two, the FARDC, the Congolese Army, folded in an unexpected way. They surrendered, abandoned their positions, so that didn’t happen previously. “So the first line of defence basically fell apart, which is the FARDC. And the SAMIDRC was never the first line of defence. And so remember that it was always the case of being there to support them in protecting civilians in particular.”

‘No military solution’ possible – Ramaphosa

The source said President Cyril Ramaphosa had been insisting for some time in conversations with leaders such as Kagame, DRC President Felix Tshisekedi, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni and Angolan President Joao Lourenço that there was ultimately no military solution to the crisis which could only be resolved by talks. In part this was because SA could not afford the cost.  “We’re obviously pressing President Tshisekedi on the reality that ultimately he will have to sit down and talk to M23,” the source said. The peace negotiations which Lourenço has been managing led to a ceasefire in August last year. But they broke down in December because Tshisekedi insisted on negotiating with Rwanda only as he regarded the M23 as just a proxy force. Rwanda refused because it insisted that the M23 – which represents ethnic Tutsi Congolese – had genuine grievances which Kinshasa should address. These included being persecuted by the FDLR armed rebel group originally established by Rwandan Hutus who fled their country after participating in the 1994 genocide against the Tutsis.

Hopes pinned on Ruto intervention

The Pretoria source said he hoped that Kenyan President William Ruto could persuade Tshisekedi and Rwandan President Kagame to sit down and negotiate. Ruto called a summit of the East African Community on Wednesday in the hope of doing that. “And we’re hoping that will then kick-start what will be regular engagements between the two of them,” the Pretoria source said, “but ultimately they have to bring M23 into that discussion.”  Meanwhile in Brussels, Anouar El Anouni, European Union Spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, told Daily Maverick’s Ethan van Diemen there was a consensus among the 27 member states of the EU to condemn both the M23 and Rwanda for their renewed offensive, including the capture of Goma. He said that in the foreign affairs council on Monday, member states had “condemned the escalation and expressed their readiness to take measures against those that endanger peace and stability in the DRC”. He said that on Tuesday the peace and security committee had “considered all the tools at its disposal to hold accountable those that are responsible for sustaining armed conflict, instability and insecurity in the DRC”. DM

Southern African leaders are expected to decide on Friday, 31 January to withdraw their military force from the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) after its bloody battle with the Rwanda-backed M23 rebels over the past week.

But the Southern African Development Community (SADC ) wants the withdrawal of its SADC Mission in DRC (SAMIDRC) to be “orderly”, and to be preceded by a ceasefire and the relaunch of credible peace talks among the main eastern DRC belligerents – mainly Kinshasa, Kigali and the M23.

It fears that a “haphazard” withdrawal will seriously damage the credibility of SADC and therefore jeopardise any future military interventions, Daily Maverick was told. 

rwanda Democratic Republic of Congo Protesters outside the damaged Rwandan Embassy during a march in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, 28 January 2025. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Chris Milosi)



SADC announced on Wednesday that it would hold an extraordinary summit in Harare on Friday “on the security situation in the eastern part of Democratic Republic of Congo”. The meeting would be chaired by Zimbabwean President Emmerson Mnangagwa, current SADC chairperson. 

How to get SAMIDRC out of the country in an orderly way would be the main item on the agenda, a Pretoria source said. 

Daily Maverick understands that DRC – which originally called for SADC military intervention in 2023 – this week asked SADC to reinforce SAMIDRC to take on M23/Rwanda again. “But no one is keen on that. There’s no appetite for that,” the Pretoria source told us. 

“We need to get all parties to agree to a ceasefire. And then you need some kind of roadmap for peace talks. And once you have those talks resuming in earnest with a ceasefire in place, then you can start that gradual withdrawal.”

SADC failure


However SADC spins it though, it has failed to meet its objectives in DRC and any withdrawal seems likely to look like a retreat. 

SAMIDRC, comprising South African, Tanzanian and Malawian troops, deployed in the country in December 2023 with a robust mandate to defeat M23 and other rebel groups.

But after earlier losses, nine South African soldiers and three Malawians were killed and many more injured trying to halt a major offensive by M23/Rwandans against the provincial capital of Goma in two days late last week. 

france kinshasa A fire set by protesters burns outside the damaged French Embassy during a march in Kinshasa, Democratic Republic of Congo, on 28 January 2025. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Chris Milosi)



Another three SANDF soldiers were killed in the crossfire of an exchange of mortar fire by the M23/Rwandans and the DRC army at Goma airport on Monday. One of those injured last week also died. 

M23/Rwanda now holds Goma, though there have been reports of isolated skirmishes with DRC forces in parts of the city. Goma is a big prize and potential bargaining chip for M23 and Rwanda, which also captured some other smaller towns along the way.

SANDF isolated


Despite a fierce fight, the SANDF soldiers are now isolated, possibly trapped in their bases, at Goma and in Sake some 23km to the northwest. They negotiated a truce with M23 on Monday to enable both sides to collect their dead, according to one official, but their situation remains unclear. The Malawian and Tanzanian contingents seem to be in a similar predicament.

At least seven of the SA soldiers killed were part of SAMIDRC and at least two were part of the UN peacekeeping force Monusco. The SANDF has not said on which mission the remaining four were. A Uruguayan soldier in Monusco also died in the fighting last week. 

On Tuesday night, the troika of SADC’s security organ met virtually to decide how to respond to the defeat of SAMIDRC. Its recommendations will be discussed at the full in-person summit in Harare on Friday.

Daily Maverick was told that it was likely the full summit would decide to withdraw SAMIDRC, though this would be done in an orderly way, not least to preserve trust in the organisation.

The Pretoria source pointed out that SADC had in December 2024 extended SAMIDRC’s mission by a year, so it was due to leave in December this year. That meant the force should begin gradually withdrawing from about mid-2025. 

military contractors Men believed to be military contractors wait at the La Corniche border crossing point between Democratic Republic of Congo and Rwanda at Gisenyi, Rwanda, on 29 January 2025, before crossing into Rwanda. The M23 rebel group in the DRC have taken control of parts of Goma which lies close to the border of Rwanda. (Photo: EPA-EFE / Moise Niyonzima)



But the withdrawal should take place parallel to a formal peace process and only after an active ceasefire was in place that was being honoured by all concerned parties.

“And so you are able to then say the threat to human lives, innocent people, is significantly reduced.

“If there is a peace process under way, then you can start … gradual withdrawal.”

For this to happen, though, diplomatic efforts would have to be intensified, the Pretoria source said, so that when SAMIDRC withdrew, some headway would have been made in peace negotiations. 

“But the bottom line is, the reality is, you cannot afford a haphazard withdrawal.” A haphazard withdrawal would undermine trust and credibility in SADC’s ability to intervene in the future, he said.

It is a moot point, though, whether that has not already happened.

‘SA’s regional power has ended’


“This is the end of South Africa as a regional power for the next decade at least,” Darren Olivier, defence expert at the African Defence Review, told Daily Maverick. 

And it is also not clear if Rwandan President Paul Kagame, who now calls the shots, will agree to the gradual withdrawal of SAMIDRC that SADC wants. 

The Pretoria source suggested that SAMIDRC should not be blamed for the defeat. It was pointed out to him that the same three SADC countries, SA, Tanzania and Malawi, had defeated the M23 in 2013 as part of a Monusco unit, and driven it out of DRC. But the source said this time it was different because Monusco had earlier begun withdrawing from eastern DRC “so it did not have the capacity it had had earlier…”

“Number two, the FARDC, the Congolese Army, folded in an unexpected way. They surrendered, abandoned their positions, so that didn’t happen previously.

“So the first line of defence basically fell apart, which is the FARDC. And the SAMIDRC was never the first line of defence. And so remember that it was always the case of being there to support them in protecting civilians in particular.”

‘No military solution’ possible – Ramaphosa


The source said President Cyril Ramaphosa had been insisting for some time in conversations with leaders such as Kagame, DRC President Felix Tshisekedi, Ugandan President Yoweri Museveni and Angolan President Joao Lourenço that there was ultimately no military solution to the crisis which could only be resolved by talks. In part this was because SA could not afford the cost. 

“We’re obviously pressing President Tshisekedi on the reality that ultimately he will have to sit down and talk to M23,” the source said. The peace negotiations which Lourenço has been managing led to a ceasefire in August last year. But they broke down in December because Tshisekedi insisted on negotiating with Rwanda only as he regarded the M23 as just a proxy force.

Rwanda refused because it insisted that the M23 – which represents ethnic Tutsi Congolese – had genuine grievances which Kinshasa should address. These included being persecuted by the FDLR armed rebel group originally established by Rwandan Hutus who fled their country after participating in the 1994 genocide against the Tutsis.

Hopes pinned on Ruto intervention


The Pretoria source said he hoped that Kenyan President William Ruto could persuade Tshisekedi and Rwandan President Kagame to sit down and negotiate. Ruto called a summit of the East African Community on Wednesday in the hope of doing that.

“And we’re hoping that will then kick-start what will be regular engagements between the two of them,” the Pretoria source said, “but ultimately they have to bring M23 into that discussion.” 

Meanwhile in Brussels, Anouar El Anouni, European Union Spokesperson for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, told Daily Maverick’s Ethan van Diemen there was a consensus among the 27 member states of the EU to condemn both the M23 and Rwanda for their renewed offensive, including the capture of Goma.

He said that in the foreign affairs council on Monday, member states had “condemned the escalation and expressed their readiness to take measures against those that endanger peace and stability in the DRC”. He said that on Tuesday the peace and security committee had “considered all the tools at its disposal to hold accountable those that are responsible for sustaining armed conflict, instability and insecurity in the DRC”. DM


Comments

imvu Jan 30, 2025, 01:40 AM

Where is the African Union?

Jane Crankshaw Jan 30, 2025, 09:14 AM

Haha…you are kidding right?

louw.nic Jan 30, 2025, 12:04 PM

If you manage to locate them, please ask them what happened to the "African Renaissance". "The African Renaissance is the concept that the African people shall overcome the current challenges confronting the continent and achieve cultural, scientific, and economic renewal." [wikipedia]

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 05:15 PM

Navel-gazing in Addis Ababa. It did, however, hold the 1256th Emergency Ministerial meeting of its Peace & Security Council and release a communiqué declaring support for SAMIDRC and deciding “to remain actively seized of the matter”.

Jim F. Jan 30, 2025, 04:53 AM

Since the minister of defence claimed that DRC troops were shooting at the rebels over the heads of SA troops, there is a strong possibility that our troops were killed and wounded by so-called friendly fire. Autopsies must be demanded. I was not aware that the SADC has any credibility anyway.

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 05:20 PM

Autopsies do not normally answer such questions unless there is clear & precise information on the exact position & orientation of the deceased before being being hit — very unlikely in a conflict zone.

Rod MacLeod Jan 30, 2025, 07:04 AM

"Men believed to be military contractors" ... probably lots of ex-SANDF and East European combatants among those faces in the photograph. We used to call them mercenaries. What chance do our ill-equipped union backed "weekend soldiers" have against such experience?

D'Esprit Dan Jan 30, 2025, 08:47 AM

Apparently they're European mercenaries. Not sure if any Saffers are contracted un der them, I suppose.

Jane Crankshaw Jan 30, 2025, 09:16 AM

European fought European 80 years ago - leave the Africans to fight each other now! Men and war….I shake my head!

D'Esprit Dan Jan 30, 2025, 12:43 PM

Jane, with respect, Europeans are still fighting wars against each other! Since the end of WW2, there have been 26 notable intra-European wars - with about half involving the ANC's beloved Soviet Union/Russia either invading other states or brutally suppressing internal uprisings aganst brutality.

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 05:32 PM

Hired by the DRC government through Horațiu Potra’s company, most media outlets are calling them “Romanian mercenaries”, though they probably came from all over. They were supposed to suppress M23, but surrendered when Goma fell, and exited the DRC via Rwanda.

Brave Dave Jan 30, 2025, 07:29 AM

Our soldiers have been betrayed by the corrupt ANC. Poorly trained and equipped for this battle. Where were the Rooivalks. They perfect for this battle. They kicked the old experienced SADF soldiers out who could’ve prepared our current soldiers for this battle. Condolences to the families.

mistymountains Jan 30, 2025, 09:28 PM

The M23 rebels have stinger missiles in the jungle there, helicopters are not gonna just go in there and change much until those are sorted out.....

Sydney Kaye Jan 30, 2025, 07:58 AM

"Peace with honour ". Is that it. While they are saving face more of the cannon fodder will be killed. Better to leave the sinking ship as fast as possible and forget about the credibility you don't have anyway.

D'Esprit Dan Jan 30, 2025, 08:50 AM

To be fair to the SANDF generals, the ex-and current minister, how were they supposed to know what was going on? The Chiefs of Army and Airforce were playing golf, the ex-minister denying charges of bribery and corruption during her tenure and incumbent wrecked education so isn't fit for purpose.

Rae Earl Jan 30, 2025, 08:58 AM

Hey people, stop worrying. As soon as our defence force leaders have finished with their celebratory golf games and parties, they'll take a look at rescuing our trapped soldiers in the DRC. Soldiers are expendable you know so what's the panic?

dov Jan 30, 2025, 08:59 AM

Romanian mercenaries hired in by rhe DRC

mbiffi20 Jan 30, 2025, 10:51 AM

We offered to "help". It is obviously not required (I did not see any "thank yous" from Kinshasa and Kigali definitely is not pleased) so why sacrifice lives? Political expedience? Wanting to showcase our inability to do so again in the future? We can do so much more "ggod" here at home!

Michael Thomlinson Jan 30, 2025, 10:59 AM

I have seen a video of the SANDF camp in Goma which is circulating on WhatsApp. It is completely chaotic and looks like a pigsty. I am sure that this is part of the problem: No discipline and leadership on the ground to organize a proper defensive perimeter.

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 05:43 PM

You didn’t see the hesco bastion on any of those images? There is a definite perimeter to the SAMIDRC base in Sake. Any emplacements in Goma would be run by either FADRC or MONUSCO, I believe.

Julian Chandler Jan 30, 2025, 11:10 AM

What are SA soldiers doing in the DRC anyway? Does the ANC have assets there that need protection? At the end of the day, anything that begins with SA is doomed to failure these days.

Robbed Blind Jan 30, 2025, 04:39 PM

It would be good to know if there are any financial or “buddy” interests. But aside from that the thinking goes “if we let violent coups take over African nations, we might be next” so the leaders use what military power they have to discourage this behavior on the continent.

leslievminnen Jan 30, 2025, 11:53 AM

The ANC government spent more on playing silly games at the ICJ then on our soldiers. Disgusting amount of money spent on incompetent minister and her generals when our troops are using assault riffles that are 40 years old.

andrew.farrer Jan 30, 2025, 01:00 PM

nothing wrong with 40-yr old rifles. The rebels are probably using AK47's (as in 1947) - still the best assult rifle for guerilla war.

Jorn Stjerneklar Jan 30, 2025, 02:29 PM

I think you have to update your stereotypes on warfare in that part of Africa. Rwanda has the most sophisticated army on the continent. Including high tec weapons. They have trained M23 for long time. Besides, they are fighting to stop ethnic cleansing/genocide on Tutsies in the Kivus.

Gavin Hillyard Feb 4, 2025, 11:57 AM

100% Jorn. Everyone should just step back and let the local combatants sort it out themselves. Kigame stopped the genocide, has unified and improved the lot of ALL Rwandans, and is achieving a 7% p.a. GDP growth rate. He is an astute tactician and politician. Maybe SA needs someone like that?

jackt bloek Jan 30, 2025, 11:53 AM

Ramaphosa and Lamola should be asking the SANDF , what exactly do the people of Goma want ? Why is Rwanda, DRC , and now SADC countries spending money on weapons? If people in East Congo want to be part of Rwanda , its time to push that region into Rwanda . This conflict needs to end

andrew.farrer Jan 30, 2025, 01:03 PM

i'd be wary giving all that mineral wealth to a dictator with putin-like aspirations (albeit on a regional level)

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 05:52 PM

The majority of the people in the Kivus have no real affinity to Rwanda. But neither do they have much of a bond to the capital in Kinshasa. The majority only wants to live in peace, but it unclear which path will lead to such peace.

pietskietvantond Jan 31, 2025, 04:48 AM

Kivus has a large population of people of Rwandan descent, particularly the Tutsi ethnic group, who migrated to the area from Rwanda, mainly due to historical ethnic tensions. They speak the same language as the Tutsi's across the border in Rwanda.

Gavin Hillyard Feb 4, 2025, 12:05 PM

Drawing lines on a map by colonial powers has resulted in many of the wars in Africa. Read about the Berlin Conference in 1884. Sickening greed which resulted in untold suffering, and exploitation for Africans across the continent. Same thing happened in the Americas, Asia, and Australasia.

Amanda Dinan Jan 30, 2025, 12:22 PM

While our defence force is under-prepared and under-resourced, the M23 is not a rebel army, but armed with sophisticated weaponry, well trained and resourced. It's time that this war was referred to as an invasion and the backers of this invasion should be named. Beyond Rwanda.

Bennie Morani Jan 30, 2025, 02:58 PM

Absolutely. The best response would be to clean up, retrain and re-equip the corrupt, inept DRC army so that it can defend its citizens. But as we know, corruption is very difficult to get rid of.

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 05:56 PM

Theoretically, the best solution might be to have free & fair country-wide referendum in the dysfunctional DRC where each region decides whether to remain or go independent. In practice, the free & fair part would be impossible currently.

andrew.farrer Jan 30, 2025, 12:53 PM

what SADC credibility? as pathetic as the AU

Malcolm McManus Jan 30, 2025, 01:55 PM

Emmerson Mnangagwa, current chair of SADC. Could it get any worse? For goodness sake. How can anyone take these people seriously.

Malcolm McManus Jan 30, 2025, 01:55 PM

Emmerson Mnangagwa, current chair of SADC. Could it get any worse? For goodness sake. How can anyone take these people seriously.

Robbed Blind Jan 30, 2025, 04:37 PM

I chuckled at the SADC being worried about losing credibility when the current chair is Emmerson Mnangagwa

Greeff Kotzé Jan 30, 2025, 06:05 PM

The SADC’s wish list seems to be dependent on a hope and a prayer, and possibly mutually exclusive. A cease fire, a resumption of peace talks, AND an orderly withdrawal for themselves? The rebels might be unmotivated to grant all that, given their recent success.

diploscholar187 Jan 30, 2025, 06:28 PM

South Africa's loss of regional power status happened years ago. As Helmoed Romer Heitman warned, the SANDF was in danger of becoming a militia. Yet ANC arrogance is undiminished and at Davos President Ramaphosa reiterated the trope about reforming multilateralism hoping for a UNSC permanent seat.

linkinmynie Feb 1, 2025, 04:57 AM

i mean do you know us, do you know whats in our heart. Out here talking. We need soldiers. Come join us. Im tired of fighting for ungrateful people who claim to be educated. Out here making us look like cowards SMH.