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How South African men are changing the course of American democracy

What do figures like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, David Sacks, Joel Pollak and Patrick Soon-Shiong have in common? They are public figures of considerable power and influence in the US – who all spent some part of their formative years in apartheid South Africa.
How South African men are changing the course of American democracy

‘With no whites here, the blacks will go back to the trees.”

That was one of the lines in an email South African Errol Musk sent his son Elon, the world’s richest man, in 2022.

It is a detail included in Walter Isaacson’s 2023 biography of Musk and by no means the only racist statement Isaacson quotes from Musk senior.

“The blacks would take everything from you,” Errol Musk told Isaacson in an interview for the book. 

“I don’t have anything against the blacks, but they are just different from what I am.”

Elon Musk’s tormented relationship with his father is one of the running themes of Isaacson’s book, and it is made clear that Elon, in the main, deeply disapproves of his father’s views and behaviour.

Among the most grotesque aspects of Errol Musk’s history, as is now widely known, is that he has fathered two children with his own stepdaughter. 

Last week, Errol Musk appeared on one of South Africa’s top podcasts, Podcast and Chill with MacG, in what was hailed as a coup for podcaster Macgyver Mukhwevho. There, Errol was permitted to deliver a highly sanitised account of this history, including claiming that he had no contact with his stepdaughter until she was 29 years old.

In Isaacson’s biography, a very different version is given: one in which Elon Musk invited his father and his family to stay with him in the US in 2002, but rapidly became concerned – because Errol, “who was then 56, was becoming uncomfortably attentive to one of his stepdaughters, Jana, who was then 15”.

Errol would get Jana pregnant at 30, describing it to Isaacson as “God’s plan or nature’s plan”.

Elon Musk went to live with his father at the age of 10, and although relations between the two are highly acrimonious, even Isaacson’s pretty hagiographic biography suggests the two share certain similarities. Among them, suggests Isaacson, is a conspiratorial mindset: a tendency “to read wacky fake-news sites purveying conspiracy theories”.

Something Isaacson does not explore: whether growing up under the thumb of an unabashedly racist father in apartheid South Africa would shape Elon Musk’s future politics.

But the question is surely worth asking – not just of Musk, but of a remarkable number of other figures currently playing outsized roles in US politics. 

Elon Musk’s politics-free childhood


The upbringing of Elon Musk, as per Isaacson’s biography, is one that takes place in a political vacuum. The word “apartheid” features so little in the book that it does not even warrant an entry in the index – despite Musk living in South Africa from his birth in 1971 until 1988, a stretch of time which saw some of the greatest tumult of the apartheid regime.

Musk’s maternal grandfather was a Canadian man who specifically moved to apartheid South Africa in 1950 because he believed Canada had “gone soft”.

Musk was clearly raised in an aggressive, macho environment; he attended veldskool, notorious for its violence, and was seemingly relentlessly bullied at school in Pretoria.

But the account Musk gives of his childhood and adolescence to Isaacson is quite astonishing for the invisibility of apartheid and his own apparent failure to develop any kind of resulting social consciousness or sense of racial injustice. 

Indeed, he seems to have emerged from it with a very deep sense of his own victimhood – despite being a member of a class of people, in white South Africans, who were at various points of the twentieth century quite literally the most privileged people on earth.

“When things were most dire, he got energised. It was the siege mentality from his South African childhood,” writes Isaacson at one stage.

On a rare trip back to South Africa in 2001, Musk contracted malaria and almost died.

Years later, he told Isaacson: “Vacations will kill you. Also, South Africa. That place is still trying to destroy me.”

Read more: Triumphant Donald Trump praises ‘super guy, super genius’ Elon Musk, with Tesla shares soaring

Peter Thiel’s apartheid adventure


In his life in the US, Musk would go on to meet and work with another man who had spent part of his childhood in sub-Saharan Africa: another present-day billionaire, investor Peter Thiel.

Thiel was born to German parents in Frankfurt in the 1960s, a place which at the time was “full of pious white Christians”, according to Thiel’s biographer Max Chafkin.

In The Contrarian: Peter Thiel and Silicon Valley’s Pursuit of Power (2021), Chafkin recounts how Thiel’s father Klaus, a mining project manager, chose to work on the construction of a uranium mine near Swakopmund – part of a clandestine project on the part of the apartheid government to create a nuclear weapons programme.

Thiel spent two years at the German School in Swakopmund, preceded by a stretch at the then whites-only Pridwin school in Johannesburg. (As recently as 2020, a Pridwin mother would write in Daily Maverick that she was “taken aback at the institutional and systematised, very subtle and highly sophisticated racism” of the school.)

Thiel’s parents moved to the US thereafter, and Thiel went on to attend Stanford – at the time roiled by protests by student associations to encourage divestment from apartheid South Africa. Those protests, wrote Chafkin, felt “at least a little bit personal to Thiel, who often spoke fondly of his childhood in South Africa”.

At Stanford, writes Chafkin, “on at least two occasions, he told peers that he thought their concerns about apartheid were overblown”.

Chafkin interviewed two black female peers of Thiel’s who decades later both vividly remembered their encounters with him on this score.

Thiel allegedly told one: “It [apartheid] works”.

He allegedly told another that “South Africa’s systematic denial of civil rights to black people was economically sound”. (Thiel’s spokesperson denied all these encounters.)

At Stanford, Thiel founded a publication called the Stanford Review in 1987, acting as editor-in-chief himself. One of the publication’s first crusades was in opposition to a plan from the university to add black writers to the student literature syllabus.

“Western culture in the balance”, was the headline for the Review’s cover story on the topic. This trope – of “Western culture” being under threat – remains a talking point for Musk et al to this day.

The Review would go on to publish writing by another undergraduate friend of Thiel’s, including an “impassioned defence”, according to Chafkin, of a Stanford senior who had pled no contest to the rape of a 17-year-old. The author argued that the rapist was deserving of sympathy in part because the victim had not resisted.

The author in question? One David Sacks.

David Sacks’ campaign against multiculturalism


David Sacks was born in Cape Town in 1972, and moved to Tennessee with his family when he was five.

In July 2024, addressing the Republican National Convention, Sacks played on his immigrant identity.

“I’m David Sacks, a legal immigrant who worked hard to achieve the American dream. Now I’m concerned those same opportunities won’t be there for future generations,” Sacks said.

“We need order in our cities, order at our border, and order restored to a world on fire. My friends, we need President Donald J Trump back in the White House.”

Read more: What Trump’s victory means for you, the world and SA — seven takes from Daily Maverick writers

Back in the early 90s at Stanford, Sacks and Thiel were hitting it off like a house on fire. In 1995, they would publish a book together called The Diversity Myth: Multiculturalism and Political Intolerance on Campus.

Described by The New Republic as “angry, trollish, homophobic, fixated on identity and campus politics”, the book made it clear that the two men considered themselves oppressed – as white conservative men.

Sacks and Thiel would go on to work with Musk on internet payment platform Paypal – the staff profile of which, writes Chafkin, initially reflected Sacks and Thiel’s aversion to multiculturalism.

“In its earliest days, PayPal employed no women, and there were no black employees,” Chafkin writes.

Also brought on to PayPal in its early days: a mid-20s finance whiz called Roelof Botha, a University of Cape Town graduate who was the grandson of Pik Botha.

Today Roelof Botha is a managing partner in a venture capital firm of almost legendary status, Sequoia, but uniquely for the men profiled here has maintained a resolutely apolitical stance. Indeed, in July 2024 Botha explicitly ruled out endorsing any candidate to support ahead of the November US elections, saying: “As Sequoia as a partnership, we don’t take a political point of view”.

For his former Paypal peers Musk, Thiel and Sacks, the opposite is true.

When tech billionaires fight culture wars


“The political views of tech entrepreneurs are not normally discussed or debated,” Newsweek noted earlier this year. 

It is no exaggeration to say that Musk, Thiel and Sacks have changed all that. 

Sacks is described as “quietly becoming the leading practitioner of a new right-wing sensibility that has emerged in the political realignments provoked by Trumpism and the pandemic”, in a 2022 New Republic profile which begins: “Like his pals Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, Sacks is using his wealth and online clout to unite conservatives and former leftists in a reactionary movement against liberalism”.

Sacks and Musk are former Democrats who have drifted right on a current of perceived victimhood, opposition to the “woke mind virus” and concerns about the future of Western (read: white) civilisation. 

Thiel was always conservative and has spun further rightward. All three moguls have at various points arrived at Donald Trump as their preferred presidential candidate – and gone to enormous lengths to back him.

When buying Twitter in 2022, Isaacson writes, Musk joked to his kids: “How else are we going to get Trump elected in 2024?”

Future social scientists will have to determine exactly what impact Musk’s purchase of Twitter had on the 2024 election results, but it seems certain to have had some. Among the tweaks Musk has made to the algorithm, the Washington Post recently reported, is one which seems to amplify the accounts of Republican legislators and suppress those of Democrats.

Thiel, meanwhile, is described by his biographer as wanting “more than sway in Silicon Valley – he wanted real power, political power”.

It was Thiel who helped persuade Facebook’s top brass, ahead of the 2016 elections, to allow Trump supporters on Facebook to “say more or less whatever they wanted on its platform”.

As a result, writes Chafkin: the most popular election story on Facebook during the run-up to those elections was “Pope Francis shocks the world, endorses Donald Trump for President” (totally false); another held that Hillary Clinton had sold weapons to Islamic State terrorists (totally false).

And that’s not all, folks…


The three Musketeers above are not the only men with South African ties disrupting US politics, though they may be the best known.

Just a few weeks before the US elections this year, there was an uproar when the influential LA Times broke with the tradition of decades and announced it would not endorse a presidential candidate – despite the editorial board having decided to endorse Kamala Harris.

The man blocking the endorsement was the owner of the LA Times: Gqeberha-born, Wits-educated medical billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong.

Soon-Shiong previously told the National Museum of American History: “Growing up in apartheid South Africa, we were always the underdogs. My black friends were always the underdogs. It gave me insight into the dignity and strength of the underdog. So part of what [wife] Michele and I do, consciously or unconsciously, is always fight for the underdogs in this country and for ourselves.”

Amid outrage about the threat to media freedom posed by a newspaper baron overruling his own editors’ political choices, Soon-Shiong’s daughter Nika took to social media to claim that the reason the family would not endorse Harris was because of the Biden administration’s support for Israel’s war in Gaza – something her father denied was true.

Although Soon-Shiong himself claimed he blocked the Harris endorsement because he wanted “fair and balanced” journalism, the concern was that the real reason was a fear that Trump would take revenge on hostile media outlets if he won the election.

But a media outlet with no fear of Trump’s vengeance was the right-wing Breitbart News, which has served as a reliable mouthpiece for Trumpian talking points for the last decade.

Its “senior editor at large” is Cape Town boy Joel Pollak, formerly Tony Leon’s speechwriter, who at one stage was being considered by the first Trump administration for ambassador to South Africa

Pollak has been busy. In July 2024, in what was interpreted by some as a fairly transparent attempt to win a spot in the second Trump administration, Pollak launched a book – published by the notorious Steve Bannon – titled The Agenda: What Trump Should Do In his First 100 Days.

Pollak’s book recommends stopping even legal immigration to the US until the immigration system is reformed; proposes that the White House hold daily Bible study events; wants a task force set up to “promote childbearing”; and suggests that the decision on whether IVF is legally permissible in the US should be outsourced to a Trump-established ethics panel. DM

Comments

Martin Neethling Nov 20, 2024, 06:31 AM

It’s hard to understand what the point of this is. Five completely different people, some with tenuous links to being South African, and hours of trolling to find things that put them a bad light. With roles in the US which may or may not be linked to the incoming President. Quiet news day?

Podu Kgomo Nov 20, 2024, 06:50 AM

Denialism is often undetected by those who suffer it. There's a pattern here. A clear one. All these men are South African expats. All of them supported and continue to support Trump in one form or another. Oh, I forgot, all grew up in Apartheid South Africa. See the pattern there Martin?

Jennifer D Nov 20, 2024, 07:38 AM

Denialism is the reason we sit without infrastructure, water, electricity or public service. Did you still vote ANC?

GJ Mulder Nov 20, 2024, 07:42 AM

There is no pattern here. This is a classical case of confirmation bias by the author. I.e. having a pre conceived notion and selectively finding data points that support that belief. You could possibly find 1000s of Saffas that supported the Democratic Party if one wishes so.

johnrwic Nov 20, 2024, 10:19 AM

Agreed. Real journalism is, "after having interviewed all of these individuals myself and posing some thought provoking questions...." This article..."let me write something based on my opinion of what other people have written/said/inferred about them". With no right of reply at all.

laurantsystems Nov 20, 2024, 10:38 AM

Yes, like that uber-woke Philip somebody chap who regularly posted hysterical bile against Trump here. Tbh, I didn't bother reading his tearful, woke diatribes, but he is an example of a Saffer living in the US, although not quite in Musk's league in terms of almost everything.

Ed Rybicki Nov 21, 2024, 09:25 AM

Oh gods! You’re infected with the anti-woke mind virus!! Two uses of the word I a derogatory sense in one paragraph!! ?

Harold Porter Nov 20, 2024, 08:04 AM

All of them were Democrat supporters 10 years ago, all of them spent most of their lives in California...ah yes, we can then conclude that all Democrats in California must be racist....and if you deny my claim, then you must be a racism denier too.

once.off.address Nov 22, 2024, 04:58 AM

Nailed it!

Martin Neethling Nov 20, 2024, 08:34 AM

No I don’t. Thousands of people have left SA over the past 20 years. Stereotyping ex South Africans like this and taking a handful of examples to make your point is not journalism. The pattern is only ‘clear’ if you blindly believe the exception proves the rule.

laurantsystems Nov 20, 2024, 10:36 AM

Denialism is the very essence of the Democrats' wokeness. Denial Denial about the very real differences between men and women. Denial about people's different abilities. Wokeness is fundamentally built on the fallacy that everybody is the same and it demands equal outcomes. Trump stopped that.

JessieJade Nov 20, 2024, 03:30 PM

do you know any other word except ''woke''? every time your name is in a comment section it has the word ''woke'' attached to it.

Ed Rybicki Nov 21, 2024, 09:26 AM

She’s got a shiny new word. Likes to use it whenever she can ?

Pieter van de Venter Nov 20, 2024, 11:13 AM

Mmm, so according to your thinking, all black people voting for the ANC are thieves and robbers? Or am I missing your argument?

Gerrie Pretorius Nov 20, 2024, 12:01 PM

Maybe not in person, but definitely by association and support. “Die deler is net so goed soos die steler” comes to mind.

ttshililo2 Nov 20, 2024, 07:20 AM

Three of Maga’s most influential voices are fiftysomething white men with formative experiences in apartheid South Africa. This probably isn’t a coincidence. The lateral thinking and lack of comprehension on these pages is breathtaking lately.

louw.nic Nov 20, 2024, 08:46 AM

Tumelo, the reasons they left South Africa are self-evident: do you read the local media headlines at all? Meanwhile, we continue our inexorable downward trajectory to a failed state. Would you care to provide reasons why this is the case in our wonderful African democracy?

Skinyela Nov 20, 2024, 02:45 PM

"the reasons they left South Africa are self-evident" But most of them left during the apartheid era.

Skinyela Nov 20, 2024, 02:47 PM

“the reasons they left South Africa are self-evident” But most of them left during the apartheid era.

ttshililo2 Nov 20, 2024, 07:21 AM

Three of Maga’s most influential voices are fiftysomething white men with formative experiences in apartheid South Africa. This probably isn’t a coincidence. The lack of lateral thinking and comprehension on these comment pages is breathtaking lately.

J dW Nov 20, 2024, 03:21 PM

Three hundred million plus Americans and ‘Three of MAGA most influential voices’ (are South African)? Nonsense. There are a many more louder MAGA voices bending Trump’s fickle ear than just them. Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Ted Cruz, Roger Stone etc etc etc etc.

Margi Jensen Nov 20, 2024, 07:23 AM

You are missing the point completely

Ga g Nov 20, 2024, 08:43 AM

Agree, read through that and thought, what was the point.

shimseamus Nov 20, 2024, 09:35 AM

This group of men (less so Pollack) are influential on global US society - as in Jimmy Soni’s 2021 book “The Founders: Musk, Thiel and The Company (Paypal) That Made The Modern Internet”. Not to mention Thiel funded J D Vance’s political career. They are integral to what’s happening.

dexmoodl Nov 20, 2024, 05:26 PM

I agree more innuendo , what is point of article. Instead of celebrating SA born for achieving that power in the US (outdoing the locals) .

Merlin.warrior Nov 20, 2024, 08:25 PM

I consulted in the USA. A thin opaque veil covers a mainly racist white population trying not to be, but they are, out of fear. Honey to a youngster who has never felt comfortable born into the apartheid era and white family pressures. It was bad and stop denying impact in left or right.

once.off.address Nov 22, 2024, 05:02 AM

I knew everything I need to about the author from the headline. The use of "men" indicated a feminist author. The slant suggested cats in the vicinity. I open the link - lo and behold I was right! The 1st 5 sentences put the matter to rest. A feminist, likely US-based misandrist with x to grnd

jamesrwhitelaw Nov 20, 2024, 07:32 AM

Great article, and an enlightening read. Birds of a feather, it seems... BTW, love the term, the 3 Musketeers, brilliant! I see a Zapiro cartoon with such a caption... Nice one, DM

nigelku Nov 20, 2024, 07:39 AM

This publication is really plumbing the depths of journalism. Such a tired argument...

Michael Britton Nov 20, 2024, 03:07 PM

Nigel, What you and many of the other commentators are saying here fails to accept that journalists have opinions, and have a right to express them. Not all journalists only write news reports. DM has always had place for opinions alongside news. If it offends you, remove your blinkers.

Hilary Morris Nov 20, 2024, 07:58 AM

As is said in kugel speak, "Oh! My! God! " I guess we can be grateful they're no longer in South Africa.

virginia crawford Nov 21, 2024, 05:02 PM

Imagine! Scary.

Harold Porter Nov 20, 2024, 08:01 AM

well, you know who else grew up in Apartheid South Africa?...Nelson Mandela...so...he must be alt-Right too.

Skinyela Nov 20, 2024, 02:53 PM

But the author is talking about the people she says were part of the privileged section of South Africa. Was Mandela part of the population group while growing up in apartheid South Africa?

Mark Hansen Nov 21, 2024, 09:09 AM

What a nonsensical argument!

Harold Porter Nov 21, 2024, 11:31 AM

...that's kinda my point...

Harold Porter Nov 20, 2024, 08:02 AM

Funny how no one at DM seemed to mind all this when Musk was the enviro-darling of the left.

ros.camerondow Nov 20, 2024, 03:09 PM

Seems DM is coming down with the woke virus.

David Anthony James Starley Nov 20, 2024, 08:04 AM

A writer with TDS obviously and thus searching for 'all things bad' to write about within the same topic. It would be very interesting to read her portrayal of the main role players responsible for the parlous state of South Africa as it currently is.

Martin Botha Nov 20, 2024, 08:46 AM

Apartheid again to blame. We have seen and are still experiencing the disasterous results of an incompetent and corrupt post-apartheid regime.

Rodshep Nov 20, 2024, 08:22 AM

A month ago an article was written imploring Musk to invest in South Africa. Today he is being branded as a rabid white supremacist because he spent his formative years here. I take it his investing in this country is no longer acceptable.

Rae Earl Nov 20, 2024, 09:00 AM

What is the point of these aimless generalisations about a bunch of right wingers who had exposure to SA apartheid? The US had massive apartheid policies of its own right up to the mid 1960's. Is Ms. Davis inferring that these guys are promoting racial division in the US? Coals to Newcastle lady.

Glyn Morgan Nov 20, 2024, 01:10 PM

Don't worry too much about this articles slant (mostly true) or the fact that these guys left SA for the uSA. This article by Rebecca Davis is anti South African MEN.

Jean Racine Nov 20, 2024, 09:09 AM

A correction: unlike the others, Pollak did not grow up in Apartheid SA. He was born the same year his parents left SA, 1977, following the 1976 Student Uprisings. He only came back to SA around 2000, and started working for Leon in 2002.

jackjack12 Nov 20, 2024, 09:10 AM

What a useless article that contributes nothing to society. When journalists open with the race card you know they are just looking for clicks rather than write something meaningful.

Gerrie Pretorius Nov 20, 2024, 12:05 PM

Seems to be happening more and more at DM.

D'Esprit Dan Nov 20, 2024, 01:24 PM

Probably a good thing to even out the steaming piles of manure below the line.

Jean Racine Nov 21, 2024, 07:04 PM

Hear! Hear!

D Rod Nov 20, 2024, 09:17 AM

Ad hominem. How low can you go? Unsubscribing. You used to be a reliable source of information. You should stick to reporting about South Africa, not being a promoter of a failed project in USA and EU

Karl Sittlinger Nov 20, 2024, 09:20 AM

While these individuals clearly do have some issues, the conclusion that somehow their South African heritage is the common cause or thread for their behavior is ridiculous, no better than picking 5 black corrupt cadres and asserting that corruption is in the blood of all black South Africans.

Tony Gomes Nov 20, 2024, 09:21 AM

So Musk's daddy, that he doesn't like, 50yrs ago said dumb stuff. The one dude was german so probably nazi heritage too hey, another sounds suspiciously jewish (we all know what they did to Jesus). No wonder donations are down.

alastairmgf Nov 20, 2024, 09:28 AM

Gutter journalism.

BillyBumhe Nov 20, 2024, 09:57 AM

I thought the FT was clutching at straws in its article 'Musk, Thiel and the shadow of apartheid South Africa' and I think the same when TDM rehashes (plagiarizes?) the same argument. Men concerned left SA so long ago or have such tenuous links they are products of US culture.

R S Nov 20, 2024, 10:04 AM

Sad to see so many Trump fans on a site like this. You'd think they would be well read enough to understand why Donald "White Zuma" Trump is problematic to say the least.

Richard Kennard Nov 20, 2024, 11:07 AM

Has one of the oligarchs possibly invested into this hallowed journalistic space?

Karl Sittlinger Nov 20, 2024, 11:44 AM

I wonder if the mere act of resisting the clear logical flaws of this opinionista counts as being a Trump supporters in your eyes. I think Trump is a terrible man, but I partly blame opinionistas like this that try and lay blame wrongly for some of the voter behaviour we have seen in the US.

Skinyela Nov 20, 2024, 03:05 PM

Except that this 'piece' did not appear under opinionistas.

Martin Neethling Nov 20, 2024, 02:13 PM

May I suggest that if reading things that you don’t like makes you ‘sad’, then skip the comments section. Calling foul on smear journalism doesn’t make anyone a Trump supporter. The inference is ridiculous, as is this equating of Trump with Zuma.

Pat Collett Nov 21, 2024, 01:33 PM

If reading the article bothers you maybe the same should apply to you and skip the comments section.

Lucifer's Consiglieri Nov 20, 2024, 11:20 AM

Is Bell Pottinger still around? It feels like the author is making a pitch for a role there.

Mthulis Nov 20, 2024, 11:22 AM

Brilliant article! Thank you, Rebecca.

Elizabeth Louw Nov 20, 2024, 11:26 AM

Not the first article by the journalist in this vein...

mondlaneabraham Nov 20, 2024, 11:36 AM

Interesting article

mondlaneabraham Nov 20, 2024, 01:09 PM

lol, racism still exists in SA. Too many apartheid denialists.

Earl Grey Nov 20, 2024, 11:59 AM

Not sure I understand the criticism of Soon-Shiong along with the others. It's always struck me as strange that newspapers would endorse a specific political candidate at all. If that happened in South Africa we would (and do) cry foul. He didn't endorse Trump, he refused to endorse anyone.

Cheryl Siewierski Nov 20, 2024, 04:19 PM

It's the interference with the editorial board that's ruffled feathers - when a publication routinely endorses one candidate or another, and then suddenly their billionaire owner with various government health contracts tells them not to, things look a little more suspicious.

Skinyela Nov 20, 2024, 04:42 PM

The fact that it had been done several times before does not make it right.

dexmoodl Nov 20, 2024, 05:40 PM

Harris stance on Gaza could have been reason , he was unhappy with the editorial board for removing reporters that were writing stories on Gaza that went against the mainstream narrative. He stated if he knew about it prior , would have stopped that action.

Rael Chai Nov 20, 2024, 12:36 PM

Shocking article, the quotes from Isaacson's book on Musk that Davis uses are totally out of context. Gaslighting in the extreme.

MG L Nov 20, 2024, 01:12 PM

Quite frankly I am shocked at how many journalists at TDM are woke and “left wing”. It would appear that anybody who agrees with anything Trump says, no matter how small, is an evil “right winger”. I am getting close to reconsidering my subscription.

jackjack12 Nov 20, 2024, 02:12 PM

Go woke, go broke, only a matter of time.

alexgordon1978 Nov 20, 2024, 06:00 PM

You would love the "unbiased and objective" journalism on Maroela Media I suppose

D'Esprit Dan Nov 20, 2024, 01:31 PM

Musk - Canadian heritage; Thiel - German; Soon-Shiong - Chinese immigrants to SA; SAcks - left at 5; Pollak - left before age one. What to make of it? It's the fault of foreigners moving to SA and Saffas moving to the US when their kids were snotkoppe! Solved!

The Stoic, Cynic and Epicurean Nov 20, 2024, 02:05 PM

It's unsurprising when those who don't like what's written threaten to leave DM rather than debate issues, throw tantrums. DM being leftwing at least provides a forum for your views and where you learn opposing views. For queen woke, too much 'woke' just stops me reading your posts any further.

Hendrik Van der Westhuizen Nov 20, 2024, 02:14 PM

He was bullied at his school in Randburg, that's why he was moved to Pretoria Boys High.

Skinyela Nov 20, 2024, 03:08 PM

I am struggling to get the main theme of this article, because it suggests that these guys are white-supremacists and at the same time they’re against equal rights. Someone who believes that he/she is superior is the one who’ll fight hard for equal rights and opportunities.

tshiggo Nov 20, 2024, 03:26 PM

These men were successful because they employed people based on merit and were not strangled by labour laws that prescribe race quotas. As a result thousands of Americans are employed in well paid jobs while unemployment in South Africa is around 40% . Unions and ANC are perhaps the problem?

megapode Nov 20, 2024, 03:53 PM

An amazing number of white SAns about my age, maybe a generation younger, seem to have no idea about all that apartheid stuff, or only figured out post-94 that, you know, it wasn't good but I understand that now. It's very self serving.

alexgordon1978 Nov 20, 2024, 06:08 PM

there are plenty of white youths who still think and sound exactly like their fathers and grandfathers and so on, if people don't choose a different path themselves they just end up being copies of their ancestors it seems...

Arnold O Managra Nov 20, 2024, 05:19 PM

Oh good lord. When it seemed DM couldn't go lower than the PGHS coverage, we get... What exactly? Petty gossip and desperate slander by association I think pretty much covers it.

Murray Burt Nov 21, 2024, 07:14 AM

Don't agree with the sentiment, but like the write up. Interesting links. Thanks for the article Ms Davis.

Arno Stijlen Nov 21, 2024, 09:15 AM

DM is slowly in decline - same that is currently happening with CNN, MSNBC and the other 'lefty' media channels. That is why Youtube channels is the way to go nowadays where you can get real unfiltered news and varied opinions just about everything and then make up your own mind!

David_C Nov 21, 2024, 12:16 PM

It would be laughable if it wasn't so destructive but the irony of the author accusing Thiel, Musk etc. of being racist because they share the characteristic of some time in their youth living in SA is a racist view to say the least. It says more about the prejudice of the author than anything else

Amanda Landman Nov 21, 2024, 04:33 PM

Agree, point remains these are highly sophisticated, intellectual people who LEFT SA for a better life, why does Rebecca reckon he refused to BEE Starlink? Tired of DM going after Trump, Elon Musk etc. with woke, racist agenda. NOT unbiased journalism, if this continues, cancel my monthly DONATION!

Colin Braude Nov 21, 2024, 01:38 PM

I suspect that Musk's greatest sin in Rebecca's eyes is that, after buying Twitter, he has achieved a malignant influence that DM can only fantasize about. Missing are the effects of Musk being severally bullied at school & that his eldest surviving child is transgender & disowns him.

Lian van den Heever Nov 21, 2024, 03:21 PM

Do BEE, DEI, Affirmative Action, Quota System , Proportional Representation sound familiar . What else can white men do than apply his skills elsewhere ? Instead of moping around playing Victim of the System ?

Pat Collett Nov 21, 2024, 04:24 PM

There are clearly more than enough whites in our country who would like to emigrate to "The States" but there are many more supporters of DM who enjoy the writing and feel more part of the country than bother reading or writing comments.

Lian van den Heever Nov 21, 2024, 07:16 PM

The Whites built Themselves up after the Anglo Boer War . We did not cry foul , feeling sorry for ourselves . Or farms were exprpriated by the Briuish and we had to find other means to make living . And it is this spirit reflected by these gentlemen. I salute you

Joan van Zyl Nov 21, 2024, 07:40 PM

Thanks for bringing them all together in one article. I wondered about Botha's role - thanks for clearing it up. Another angle is that Joel Pollak is the late Rhoda Kadalie's son-in-law. She was an anti-apartheid activist, but strangely turned vehemently Trumpist when she moved to the US.

Steve Daniel Nov 21, 2024, 10:43 PM

Vaak drivel…

once.off.address Nov 22, 2024, 04:56 AM

How many blacks did the parents and grandparents of the woman who wrote this piece hate or abuse? Since we are dredging up sins of the fathers to project onto the sons, we might as well look into the author's past and call her the appropriate *ist because... well, her mother was/is one. Right?

Colleen Davis Nov 22, 2024, 06:54 AM

"According to Merriam-Webster, "woke" means being aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues, especially issues of racial and social justice." The Cambridge dictionary shares what "White Fragility" means. Happy to be Woke. Rebecca, Thank you for your article

alexgordon1978 Jan 3, 2025, 01:45 PM

I dislike Elon, I usually enjoy Rebecca, but this article is a bit problematic...