Thabo Mbeki’s powerful words of anger point to the ANC’s bleak future

Unfortunately it really does seem that, despite the constant renewal refrain from the president and others the ANC is too far gone to change course, just look at the continuing decline in local governance. But the DA also needs to get its act together properly if it is to capitalise on this.

This is rich coming from an ex-president whose AIDS denialism caused the deaths of millions of South Africans.

ANC need to cleanse itself and provide service delivery to its loving people.

If not the ANC, then Who? Sadly, the DA will never get enough support to be the ruling Party. Disillusioned ANC supporters would rather turn to a morally corrupt Party like MK than vote for the Too White DA. Only a true ANC/DA coalition has any chance of getting rid of (some)corruption.

It’s either absolute incompetence, criminal intent, or both. In every aspect of governance, the ANC continue to fail. The lack of moral values and work ethic are shocking.

And if the DA can't take advantage we know who will, and who, of course, already have. The li'l ol' skelm-in-chief, apart from everything else, is a master strategist, and Shivambu is no slouch. Their recent shout out to community activists was a stroke of genius. Be afraid ... be very afraid :)!

Stephen Grootes, is that you? Really? No, really? Over the years you have been an apologist for the ANC, with only an occasional criticism from time to time. And now this. I dont disagree with the sentiments expressed, I am just surprised that they came from you.

Very little has changed over the past 30 years. Around 2/3rds of SA's voters vote for the ANC or its splinter parties, like Cope, the EFF and MK in each election. There is just churn and they simply cannot bring themselves to vote for parties with good policies and which are free of corruption.

Everybody knows the ANC is an organised crime syndicate masquerading as a Southern African liberation movement.

cANCer - the largest criminal organisation in South Africa. The sheep keep voting for the wolves.

Yet we are forbidden from discussing creating a new country without them and must live our lives beholden to them, in the hope that this 70% magically realise what's happening?

Good luck to Mbeki for continued flogging a dead horse. It is evidently clear that ANC has yet to learn vital lessons from own missteps. FW de Klerk once prophesied that ANC will be so fractured that, in the end, fighting will be about which faction remains with the name ANC. Now, MK and next..what

I think the GNU has been a lever of change in the ANC. OK, there are still some entrenched, corrupt old guard, but the reduction of the parliamentary party and what can now be described as DA oversight in ministries, means that Ramaphosa has that much more power in his own party to change things.

1912, SA’s educated elite met in Bloem to establish a national organization to protest against racial discrimination and to appeal for equal treatment before the law. That organization is now led, largely, by people who cannot analyze a set of numbers and recently a grade 4 has been its president.

It is staggering that the concept of improving the lives of citizens is a "revelation"! It's an admission of incompetency as a governing party! Coming from the AIDS denialist himself...

It must be terrible to have devoted your entire life to a bunch of misfits. And even more terrible that you still do. Time to move on.

Parties in SA generally need to be better at checking the backgrounds of people they want to put into influential positions. Appointing somebody without making reasonable checks is a poor show. Full stop.

I think people forget. The anc/mk/eff etc is a true representation of the voters of this country. Most of our population seem to be criminals too if you look at the crime stats and what is going on around us every day. Criminals vote for criminals.

In my opinion the ANC and its culture of party first and no consequence for corruption is not going to change. If it hasn't changed in the last 30 years, but got steadily worse, there is no hope of trying to transform this party.

Yet the ANC got almost twice the votes the DA got. For everyone citizen who believe in the DA two believe in the ANC. The DA seems to have no game plan to grow out of being a 20 percenter party.

Mr Mbeki should look in a mirror: had he not prevented the Arms Deal from being properly investigated, and had he not allowed Mr Mugabe to steal an election, much of the misery that followed could have been prevented.

Both the DA and ANC have lost ground. The DA has been failing to appeal to the black masses and the former ANC votes are going straight to the MK or EFF and Im afraid it would be safe to say that these two parties will govern SA. I predict this by the 2039 national elections.

Good riddance to the ANC. Maybe Mbeki should join the DA.

Great article except for one thing. The DA will never become the biggest party with HZ at the helm and JS doing her bidding. Yet it is as difficult for the DA to change as it is unlikely that the ANC renews.