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Pravin Gordhan 1949-2024 — A servant of the people who connected the dots of State Capture

Pravin Gordhan died during the early hours of Friday, 13 September. South Africa's servant of the people is no more.
Pravin Gordhan 1949-2024 — A servant of the people who connected the dots of State Capture Pravin Gordhan passed away in the early hours of Friday September 13 surrounded by his family, closest friends and his lifelong comrades in the liberation struggle, family spokesperson Adrian Lackay has announced.  After his retirement, Gordhan fought a short and courageous battle with cancer, said Lackay. His final words were: “I have no regrets, no regrets...we have made our contribution.” He is survived by his wife Vanitha and his daughters Anisha and Priyesha.  From the time he was 22 years old, Pravin Gordhan lived a life in service to South Africa. As a young man in the early seventies, he became an activist against apartheid, first as a leader of the Natal Indian Congress. A qualified pharmacist, he was fired by the state’s health authorities for his resistance to apartheid. With others, he helped build the network of community organisations which would eventually mushroom into the United Democratic Front.  [caption id="attachment_1581943" align="alignnone" width="1689"]pravin gordhan ramaphosa President Cyril Ramaphosa (left) and former public enterprises minister Pravin Gordhan. (Photo: Sebabatso Mosamo / Sunday Times)[/caption] While he is best known as South Africa’s most successful taxman and as a slayer of State Capture, for which he and his family were mercilessly attacked, Gordhan had a much richer pedigree. His nerves of steel, so evident as he took on the Gupta family, who were the architects with then president Jacob Zuma of the worst of State Capture, were sown early. As a young activist, he was repeatedly jailed, but always emerged to return to service. He was one of the birthing fathers of the new order and served as a chairperson of the multiparty negotiations, the Convention for a Democratic South Africa, and then became an MP for the ANC in 1994.  Read more: Pravin Gordhan’s half-century of public service draws to a close

A taxman and a finance minister

The new state, left bankrupt by the last apartheid government, needed to urgently bolster the fiscus and fix the Department of Inland Revenue, as the SA Revenue Service (SARS) was then called. He became deputy commissioner in 1998 and took on the commissioner role in 1999. It was, arguably, the leadership role he most savoured. As the SARS commissioner, Gordhan honed many of the leadership traits he would use in his future political life. [caption id="attachment_2357677" align="alignnone" width="2560"]pravin gordhan Pravin Gordhan, South Africa's minister for public enterprises, at the Future of South Africa conference in Cape Town on Wednesday, 7 March 2017. Photo: Halden Krog / Bloomberg via Getty Images)[/caption] He transformed SARS by elevating its staff’s purpose from collecting taxes to building a country. He walked the offices and turned SARS around from a paper-based and bureaucratic institution into the modern, tax collecting machine it is today. The institution was so well respected that Gordhan was head of the World Customs Union for six years from 2000. Gordhan and his team drove up collections, enabling a golden era for South Africa’s fiscus when Trevor Manuel was finance minister. Together, they enabled South Africa’s first (and only) budget surplus. When Manuel left, Gordhan took up the mantle of finance minister, quickly settling into the National Treasury as a safe pair of hands until he was deployed to a different Cabinet position by Zuma, who could not get the nuclear deal he so coveted past Gordhan and his team who threw regulatory boulders up to prevent it from happening. [caption id="attachment_2357675" align="alignnone" width="2560"]pravin gordhan jonas Then South African finance minister Pravin Gordhan (centre) and his deputy Mcebisi Jonas (centre right), arrive at the Gauteng Division of the High Court in Pretoria for a hearing on Tuesday, 28 March 2017. Then President Jacob Zuma ordered Gordhan to cancel meetings with investors in the UK and the US and return home on Monday, a day after he had flown to London to begin a week-long roadshow. (Photo: Waldo Swiegers Bloomberg via Getty Images)[/caption] When Zuma went full-throttle and fired Gordhan as finance minister, as well as his deputy Mcebisi Jonas, the gloves came off. Gordhan turned activist again, using his axing to warn his compatriots to “join the dots” of State Capture. Read more: Pravin Gordhan and Mcebisi Jonas: The Faces of the Resistance Zuma appointed Nhlanhla Nene as finance minister but then soon fired him too, to make way for the “Weekend Special” minister Des van Rooyen in 2017. That was a disaster that sent the economy into a tailspin. [caption id="attachment_2357676" align="alignnone" width="2560"]pravin gordhan zuma Pravin Gordhan, former South African finance minister, speaks during a news conference in Pretoria on Friday, 31 March 2017. Then president Jacob Zuma fired Gordhan and made sweeping changes to his administration in a high-stakes power play. (Photo: Waldo Swiegers / Bloomberg via Getty Images)[/caption] [caption id="attachment_2357674" align="alignnone" width="2560"]pravin gordhan zuma ramahosa Then president Jacob Zuma (centre) speaks to then deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa (left) and then finance minister Pravin Gordhan (right) before the presentation to Parliament of the 2016 Budget. Photo: Halden Krog / Bloomberg via Getty Images)[/caption] The ANC stepped in and tapped Gordhan to return and he did, stabilising the economy through a very rough patch. When Cyril Ramaphosa was elected President, he re-appointed Gordhan as his public enterprises minister.  [caption id="attachment_2357679" align="alignnone" width="2560"]pravin gordhan Pravin Gordhan, then South African minister of public enterprises, at a news conference to announce Eskom’s results on 30 July 2019. (Photo: Waldo Swiegers / Bloomberg via Getty Images)[/caption] In this final position, Gordhan battled to stabilise Eskom and Transnet, the two organisations bulleted by Zuma and the networks which extracted billions from the electricity and rail utilities. He finally retired from formal politics after the 2024 national election, never heralded properly for all he had done. 

Joining the dots of State Capture 

Gordhan’s most significant final act of service to his country was his appearance before the commission of inquiry into State Capture in 2018.  He placed the first formal value of the cost of State Capture to South Africa at R500-billion and he placed Zuma front and centre of the State Capture project. He revealed the dramatic details of how the late ANC deputy secretary-general Jessie Duarte had phoned him as the devastation of Van Rooyen’s appointment became clear. She had said he would get a call from Zuma and that he should not refuse to take on the role of finance minister again. Gordhan faced a term of fire. The Hawks investigated his time at SARS, famously sending him 27 questions to answer. It was a fishing expedition and as the State Capture inquiry would hear, part of the story of how the capture project infiltrated all levels of the state. Read more: Pravin Gordhan: From freedom fighter to finance minister to ‘accidental hero’

Finally, a family man

Gordhan gave his life to his country. He was also a loving family man – to his two daughters and wife Vanitha. He was well beloved by his extended family, but also by the many young cadres whom he helped mentor into rich political and professional lives. He is survived by his wife Vanitha and his daughters Anisha and Priyesha.  DM

Pravin Gordhan passed away in the early hours of Friday September 13 surrounded by his family, closest friends and his lifelong comrades in the liberation struggle, family spokesperson Adrian Lackay has announced. 

After his retirement, Gordhan fought a short and courageous battle with cancer, said Lackay. His final words were: “I have no regrets, no regrets...we have made our contribution.” He is survived by his wife Vanitha and his daughters Anisha and Priyesha. 

From the time he was 22 years old, Pravin Gordhan lived a life in service to South Africa. As a young man in the early seventies, he became an activist against apartheid, first as a leader of the Natal Indian Congress.

A qualified pharmacist, he was fired by the state’s health authorities for his resistance to apartheid. With others, he helped build the network of community organisations which would eventually mushroom into the United Democratic Front. 

pravin gordhan ramaphosa President Cyril Ramaphosa (left) and former public enterprises minister Pravin Gordhan. (Photo: Sebabatso Mosamo / Sunday Times)



While he is best known as South Africa’s most successful taxman and as a slayer of State Capture, for which he and his family were mercilessly attacked, Gordhan had a much richer pedigree. His nerves of steel, so evident as he took on the Gupta family, who were the architects with then president Jacob Zuma of the worst of State Capture, were sown early.

As a young activist, he was repeatedly jailed, but always emerged to return to service. He was one of the birthing fathers of the new order and served as a chairperson of the multiparty negotiations, the Convention for a Democratic South Africa, and then became an MP for the ANC in 1994. 

Read more: Pravin Gordhan’s half-century of public service draws to a close

A taxman and a finance minister


The new state, left bankrupt by the last apartheid government, needed to urgently bolster the fiscus and fix the Department of Inland Revenue, as the SA Revenue Service (SARS) was then called. He became deputy commissioner in 1998 and took on the commissioner role in 1999.

It was, arguably, the leadership role he most savoured. As the SARS commissioner, Gordhan honed many of the leadership traits he would use in his future political life.

pravin gordhan Pravin Gordhan, South Africa's minister for public enterprises, at the Future of South Africa conference in Cape Town on Wednesday, 7 March 2017. Photo: Halden Krog / Bloomberg via Getty Images)



He transformed SARS by elevating its staff’s purpose from collecting taxes to building a country. He walked the offices and turned SARS around from a paper-based and bureaucratic institution into the modern, tax collecting machine it is today. The institution was so well respected that Gordhan was head of the World Customs Union for six years from 2000.

Gordhan and his team drove up collections, enabling a golden era for South Africa’s fiscus when Trevor Manuel was finance minister. Together, they enabled South Africa’s first (and only) budget surplus.

When Manuel left, Gordhan took up the mantle of finance minister, quickly settling into the National Treasury as a safe pair of hands until he was deployed to a different Cabinet position by Zuma, who could not get the nuclear deal he so coveted past Gordhan and his team who threw regulatory boulders up to prevent it from happening.

pravin gordhan jonas Then South African finance minister Pravin Gordhan (centre) and his deputy Mcebisi Jonas (centre right), arrive at the Gauteng Division of the High Court in Pretoria for a hearing on Tuesday, 28 March 2017. Then President Jacob Zuma ordered Gordhan to cancel meetings with investors in the UK and the US and return home on Monday, a day after he had flown to London to begin a week-long roadshow. (Photo: Waldo Swiegers Bloomberg via Getty Images)



When Zuma went full-throttle and fired Gordhan as finance minister, as well as his deputy Mcebisi Jonas, the gloves came off. Gordhan turned activist again, using his axing to warn his compatriots to “join the dots” of State Capture.

Read more: Pravin Gordhan and Mcebisi Jonas: The Faces of the Resistance

Zuma appointed Nhlanhla Nene as finance minister but then soon fired him too, to make way for the “Weekend Special” minister Des van Rooyen in 2017. That was a disaster that sent the economy into a tailspin.

pravin gordhan zuma Pravin Gordhan, former South African finance minister, speaks during a news conference in Pretoria on Friday, 31 March 2017. Then president Jacob Zuma fired Gordhan and made sweeping changes to his administration in a high-stakes power play. (Photo: Waldo Swiegers / Bloomberg via Getty Images)



pravin gordhan zuma ramahosa Then president Jacob Zuma (centre) speaks to then deputy president Cyril Ramaphosa (left) and then finance minister Pravin Gordhan (right) before the presentation to Parliament of the 2016 Budget. Photo: Halden Krog / Bloomberg via Getty Images)



The ANC stepped in and tapped Gordhan to return and he did, stabilising the economy through a very rough patch. When Cyril Ramaphosa was elected President, he re-appointed Gordhan as his public enterprises minister. 

pravin gordhan Pravin Gordhan, then South African minister of public enterprises, at a news conference to announce Eskom’s results on 30 July 2019. (Photo: Waldo Swiegers / Bloomberg via Getty Images)



In this final position, Gordhan battled to stabilise Eskom and Transnet, the two organisations bulleted by Zuma and the networks which extracted billions from the electricity and rail utilities. He finally retired from formal politics after the 2024 national election, never heralded properly for all he had done. 

Joining the dots of State Capture 


Gordhan’s most significant final act of service to his country was his appearance before the commission of inquiry into State Capture in 2018.  He placed the first formal value of the cost of State Capture to South Africa at R500-billion and he placed Zuma front and centre of the State Capture project.

He revealed the dramatic details of how the late ANC deputy secretary-general Jessie Duarte had phoned him as the devastation of Van Rooyen’s appointment became clear.

She had said he would get a call from Zuma and that he should not refuse to take on the role of finance minister again. Gordhan faced a term of fire.

The Hawks investigated his time at SARS, famously sending him 27 questions to answer. It was a fishing expedition and as the State Capture inquiry would hear, part of the story of how the capture project infiltrated all levels of the state.

Read more: Pravin Gordhan: From freedom fighter to finance minister to ‘accidental hero’

Finally, a family man


Gordhan gave his life to his country. He was also a loving family man – to his two daughters and wife Vanitha. He was well beloved by his extended family, but also by the many young cadres whom he helped mentor into rich political and professional lives.

He is survived by his wife Vanitha and his daughters Anisha and Priyesha.  DM

Comments

Philippusjpotgieter Sep 13, 2024, 06:26 AM

So much appreciation for the hard work and unwavering moral compass of this man! May he rest in peace and his goodness shine through in the legacy he leaves behind.

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Sep 13, 2024, 07:16 AM

I believe Pravin Gordhan saved our country, and has afforded us the chance to work together as one people to build our South Africa into the country it should be. In honour of this extraordinary man and ourselves, let's not waste it.

Luan Sml Sep 13, 2024, 07:54 AM

Well said, could not agree more! He was an impenetrable wall between the state capture of Zuma and the well-being of our country… thanks to Pravin, and others like him, we have another chance to make this work!

D'Esprit Dan Sep 13, 2024, 08:02 AM

Agreed with all in this thread!

Donald bemax Sep 13, 2024, 09:18 AM

I had the privilege of meeting this good man. He always fought for the people. Have a well deserved rest Pravin.

Malcolm McManus Sep 13, 2024, 08:17 AM

Absolutely. A giant of a man. May he rest in peace. He has truly made a strong foundation for the stability and future of our country. He will be fondly remembered for his meaningful contributions despite the challenges.

khumalosenz Sep 13, 2024, 06:29 AM

Rest in peace, Minister Pravin Gordan you have played your part, prayers with your family be strong in this difficult times ?

Marco Brown Sep 13, 2024, 06:29 AM

Sad day indeed, we have lost a giant and a true servant of the people. Condolences to Mr Gordhan's family, friends and fellow stuggle stalwarts.

whitfield.green Sep 13, 2024, 06:54 AM

Rest in peace Son of the Soil. Indeed, you have made a sterling contribution.

Lloyd Kaseke Sep 13, 2024, 07:07 AM

Rest easy, good man. You did yourself, your family and your country proud. Condolences to Pravin's loved ones.

Jay Pillay Sep 13, 2024, 07:17 AM

A truly courageous South African of impeccable moral standing. An old style politician, who believed in the people of this country, unfortunately he was surrounded by mainly rogues. He did his best and one cannot ask for more. Good Journey Brother.

D'Esprit Dan Sep 13, 2024, 08:03 AM

Absolutely correct.

Gugu1 K Sep 13, 2024, 10:02 AM

The media never ceases to amaze. From Stephen Grootes' piece, "Pravin Gordhan’s rough ride from anti-corruption hero to being an integral part of SA’s problem", written on this very platform less than a year ago to Haffejee's dry-cleaning exercise here!

mariajohan19 Sep 14, 2024, 02:36 PM

There is no doubt that Pravin deserves all the honour that we can bestow upon him but you are also correct that in his last phase as minister of public enterprises some of his critical comments dented his image as correctly described by Stephen Groote.

mskingon Sep 13, 2024, 07:20 AM

I had the privilege to work with PG at SARS- At the time it was not easy as he was an unknown to me but he showed himself to be an astute taxman who was committed to do the right thing. It was a journey and I will never forget. My thoughts go out to his wife and daughters

Grumpy Old Man Sep 13, 2024, 10:50 AM

I think Mark we should all remember your own contribution and what it is you (and others) suffered because of your principles. Thank you Sir

D'Esprit Dan Sep 13, 2024, 07:21 AM

RIP Pravin Gordhan. Selfless and strong, one shudders to think where we'd be today without him.

William Kelly Sep 13, 2024, 07:23 AM

RIP. If he had retired after his last Minister of Finance position I'd agree with you. His tenure as minister of public enterprises was not showered with glory and Gordhan placed State and Party first, in stark contrast to the debt we owe him for standing against State Capture.

Grumpy Old Man Sep 13, 2024, 08:00 AM

William, when I reflect on what PG achieved - what he stood for - what he was up against - the abuse he suffered at the hands of his enemies and detractors - this would have broken even the very best of us! He was not without fault but for me a better man and patriot you will not find

D'Esprit Dan Sep 13, 2024, 08:04 AM

He was flawed in his tenure at Public Enterprises, but without him over his career in government, we'd be a helluva lot worse off.

Malcolm McManus Sep 13, 2024, 09:11 AM

Agreed. Absolutely no doubt. And in an extremely hostile environment. No easy ride for this remarkable man.

Denise Smit Sep 13, 2024, 07:25 AM

Die berghaan het n veer laat val, van die hoogste berg in Wuppertal, sowaar.

Llewellyn Henman Sep 15, 2024, 09:20 AM

Daar slaan jy die spyker op sy kop!

bcmmayisela56 Sep 13, 2024, 07:33 AM

Condolences to the Gordhan family and friends. Man, we were living the life during his era as SARS Commissioner, low taxes, a strong Rand, and a well managed economy that was growing. Lala ngoxolo Tata Gordhan.

Jennifer D Sep 13, 2024, 07:35 AM

Very sad news - a courageous and ethical man - we mourn the loss.

Denise Smit Sep 13, 2024, 07:41 AM

The words of the poem by C Leipold " Die berghaan het n veer laat val van die hoogste rots in Wuppertal" is a poem dedidated to a true giant. As an Afrikaans/ English person I dedicate this poem to a true Giant

Vakele Ntshalintshali Ntshalintshali Sep 13, 2024, 07:43 AM

One of the unsung heroes of our times. He helped this country not to be destroyed by the wolves and vultures of the State Capture. May his soul be granted eternal peace and his name be never forgotten by the true lovers of democracy.

nigelku Sep 13, 2024, 07:44 AM

Good men are hard to find. Rest in Peace.

Geoff Schreiner Sep 13, 2024, 07:46 AM

True icon of South Africa...from his role in the anti apartheid struggle to the stability and integrity he brought in the post 94 period, South Africans from all walks of life owe him a huge debt of gratitude

Francois Smith Sep 13, 2024, 08:03 AM

A Condolences to the family. B Everyone will think he was a hero that could not do wrong. He was mostly on the right side, however: C He is the one who borrowed the money that we have to pay now. D He was aware of corruption at Eskom and did NOTHING He knew Ramaphosa is tainted and did NOTHING.

jayr Sep 13, 2024, 08:11 AM

AUM Shanti Shanti Shanti

mi Sep 13, 2024, 08:13 AM

Great respect for his steely management – however, at his core he was a Communist, and that ideology has posed a stumbling block for the development of South Africa. As it has resulted in over regulation of the economy which stifles markets.

Peter Holmes Sep 13, 2024, 09:25 AM

My thoughts exactly. Many people asking where SA would be now without Mr Gordhan's stand against state capture. I'd ask, where would SA be now if it had not been for the ANC's ruinous, communist-socialist ideology over the past 30 odd years.

Ifitwalkslikeaduck P Sep 13, 2024, 08:13 AM

Pravin is the reason we have certain parts of the state that actually function, his higher purpose mission and ethics in achieving that are a lasting legacy to us all. Looking carefully just every person who ever attacked him was compromised in some way by greed and corruption.

Francois Smith Sep 13, 2024, 08:34 AM

Name one functioning part of the state.

Stephanie West Sep 13, 2024, 08:18 AM

He helped SA immeasurably in SARS and in Finance ministries. But as public works minister, he told the Eskom CEO to back off corruption investigations because (sic) "everyone must eat at the trough". Principles are fixed constructs, and not servants of expedience or convenience. Sad ending.

N Another Sep 13, 2024, 08:40 AM

I wouldn’t be so quick to lavish praise on this so called servant of the people. I’m not sure that his moral compass and track record are all that clean.

Fanie Rajesh Ngabiso Sep 13, 2024, 08:50 AM

What you can however be sure of is that if Pravin had not stood against zuma in the way that he did you would not recognize the country you live in today. (and not in a good way)

ian58 Sep 13, 2024, 08:54 AM

PG was a pragmatist and visionary, but he wasn't a magician. I have no doubts about his moral compass and saw his deep integrity first hand. Even the greatest of leaders at times face circumstances outside of their control that they cannot overcome. South Africa is poorer for his passing.

Grumpy Old Man Sep 13, 2024, 09:21 AM

100% Ian

D'Esprit Dan Sep 13, 2024, 09:55 AM

Absolutely. Pravin was human, with all that being one entails, but ultimately he was a damned fine human.

Rae Earl Sep 13, 2024, 08:41 AM

He stood firm against Zuma and his acolytes while they were selling South Africa to a family from India. He crossed swords many times with the treasonous Tom Moyane who was attempting to destroy SARS at the behest of Jacob Zuma and his mob from Bell Pottinger. Gordhan was a true hero of SA.

guy.wuyta Sep 13, 2024, 09:01 AM

RIP. Great courage to act against state capture. Would be good if his calculation of the R500 billion and beneficiaries is published if not already done.

guy.wuyta Sep 13, 2024, 09:01 AM

RIP. Great courage to act against state capture. Would be good if his calculation of the R500 billion and beneficiaries is published if not already done.

Neal Sokay Sep 13, 2024, 09:03 AM

RIP Minister, a true Patriot.

Just Me J Sep 13, 2024, 09:03 AM

RIP: "Gordhan became a target of a smear campaign, by people involved in state capture (in the ANC and EFF) related corrupt activities due to his efforts to fight corruption. Iqbal Survé accused him of targeting the Sekunjalo Group while Survé and Sekunjalo companies faced fraud investigations."

dexmoodl Sep 13, 2024, 09:03 AM

R.I.P. PG ..Giant of a man , who gave Sa his best . He stood up when all others looked the other way for that i am grateful, he has given SA a chance to correct the path we are on, if only others would pick up the mantle.

ian58 Sep 13, 2024, 09:05 AM

As a consultant, finest leader I have worked with. PG lead from the front with an intellect that saw the future three steps ahead of anyone else. An activist and pragmatist with an intuitive lived experience of bringing about change. PG never sought the acclaim he richly deserved. Hamba Kahle Chief.

dladlav04 Sep 13, 2024, 09:17 AM

Hamba Kahle PG.

amuhnkuna Sep 13, 2024, 09:42 AM

He will, for me, forever be remembered as the patriotic hero who stood firm when marauding dogs were having a good go at the state of South Africa. May his soul rest in eternal peace.

Hilary Morris Sep 13, 2024, 09:44 AM

Sad loss of an honourable man. So rare in the ANC. Condolences to his family. He served his country well, with dignity and grace. RIP

Skinyela Sep 13, 2024, 09:57 AM

"His name will endure through the ages, and so also will his work."

Mukesh Kesa Sep 13, 2024, 10:10 AM

AUM Shanti Shanti Shanti. Hamba Kahle Umkhonto. Best way to describe him; was mentioned by someone's comments below .... old style politician. ANC Party and people came first. His life was of sacrifice for SA.

superjase Sep 13, 2024, 10:27 AM

thank you pravin <3

Barrie King Sep 13, 2024, 11:33 AM

He was a giant of a man amongst the looting hyenas and scum of the Zuma faction whose "service to the people" started and ended only with themselves. This country needs many more of his outstanding ilk!

Aluwani Nengovhela Sep 13, 2024, 11:42 AM

Thank you Mr Pravin Jamnandas Gordhan. Rest well my leader. We are continuously grateful

Sug Sep 13, 2024, 12:01 PM

While not the only politician that I have ever admired, he is the last of them. Pravin, preceded by Nelson, and Maggie. Condolences to his family, and to South Africa.

J W Sep 13, 2024, 12:41 PM

Good bye, dear servant. Your life of service will be remembered.

Rod Bulman Sep 13, 2024, 12:52 PM

He was and remains a hero and an example of what it is to be a loyal South African. Salute!

Inertia Maharaj Sep 13, 2024, 03:32 PM

He was a legend. A bulwark against the worst ravages of state capture. Zuma's corrupt cronies may have weaseled their way into parliament again, but thanks to the likes of Pravin we see them for what they are. Rest in peace, dear Pravin.

Rob Wilson Sep 13, 2024, 05:43 PM

RIP well meaning servant of the people. Unfortunately, his most significant contribution came very late in the last two decades of economic mayhem that was engineered by the ANC, but it probably played a big part in allowing us to fall on the right side of the abyss. Condolences to the family.

phutieh Sep 13, 2024, 09:42 PM

This was an ANC member.

owenk33 Sep 14, 2024, 02:31 PM

Each and every one of us is only as good as their last mistake. Whilst he was minister of public enterprises: Eskom was in the biggest mess it has ever been in Prasa is a total failure The ports are an absolute joke How anyone in their right minds can sing his praises is beyond me